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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4989686" data-attributes="member: 18280">Truly?  To what end, I wonder?Calling something a "strawman" (or any other logical fallacy), when there is a logical fallacy involved, means that the opposing position is not rationally consistent.  If there really is rational inconsistency, then anyone who continues to argue along irrational lines is being irrational.  One can dismiss an irrational position as such.So, if someone makes a claim that X is an irrational position because of logical fallacy Y, and logical fallacy Y does not apply, pointing out that logical fallacy Y doesn't apply is discrediting his argument on the only basis available, because the claim that X is irrational is based upon logic, and logical "jargon" either does, or does not, apply.  How about instead we try to stop people who come in to threadcrap?  This thread is about old school gaming, and coming in to question the value of the topic wouldn't be accepted if this was, say, about 4e D&D.It is fine that you, or Hobo, don't believe in Old School gaming (as opposed to New School, or not opposed to anything -- there is only a false dichotomy if you falsely demand that there is a dichotomy to begin with).  However, this is threadcrapping pure and simple.  It would be nice if non-WotC-D&D threadcrapping were dealt with as threadcrapping is in 4e threads.  RC</blockquote>