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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack" data-source="post: 447612" data-attributes="member: 4078">thanks for all the advice, but ..liked some of the ideas e.g. helping out the rogue in getting sneak attacks.  others the cure seemed worse then the disease e.g. being an elf when you've already got a  problem with fort saves and hps and then burning a feat on point black shot. or taking spider climb which isn't of great use down the track when you'll have access to flying magic i'd guessi'm not really convinced that d4+1 magic missile is going to cut it at level 1 or 2.  sorry doc rictus and othersand is true strike plus a crossbow - a certain d8 every round - much better than than just firing every round if yiou've got an Ok dex i'd suggest if you do have true strike and shield why not get the largest weapon you can carry - two handed sword?.  who cares if you've got a non-proficiency penalty if you've got +20TH.  even with str8 2d6-1 is going to hurt.I've started wondering how much of a cost a wasted level 1 known spell really is at higher levels.   wands of 1st level spells at caster level 1 are relatively cheap.  if I want to be able to cast true strike later on, doesn't a wand of true strike deal with this.  similarly with shield 1 minute is going to last most of a combat.  similar thoughts about unseen servant, mage armor and tenser's floating disc.seems the advantage of having first level spells as known spells later on is where the effect scales with caster level in a way that materially effects the game e.g. magic missile, or where there's a saving throw when wands/scrolls will only give you a dc of 11, or feather fall b/c it's quickened - but even then how expensive are rings of feather fall if you are towards the back of the party and still paranoid about pit traps.on that basis the first spells that are really worth having as known at higher levels are pretty limited: magic missile, grease, color spray. maybe charm person, maybe feather fall.  room for sleep I think.</blockquote>

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