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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 6735745" data-attributes="member: 17607">Let's nip this one in the bud right freakin' now.If a player asks if he can bring a pre-existing character into Out of the Abyss, and you as DM respond, "Sure, but the character loses all of his gear in the introduction and might never get it back," and the player decides to bring in the character anyway, that is not "punishment" -- that is the player making a decision and having to live with the consequences of that decision. If losing his character's magic items permanently would be such a blow to him, he can and should make the decision to bring in a different character who doesn't have magical gear.The 'we don't have time to search all the rooms' problem is a different issue. This is more of a problem with trying to use a module where, ideally, the characters would slowly accumulate information and hidden gear prior to making their break-out attempt (see Stalag 17, The Great Escape, etc., for movie references to this sort of scenario), but presenting this scenario in an environment where such a slow-moving prologue would likely cause new and novice players not to return for subsequent weeks, so instead the typical party just goes for broke and tries an action-oriented break-out that doesn't lead to detailed investigation. If the party decides they're getting out of the prison *now*, regardless of their preparations, the DM isn't obligated to provide them a map of the complex so that they might choose to treat the prison as a dungeon and collect all the loot -- showing the party the quickest way out of the prison and letting them follow that route is entirely defensible.(As an aside, when I ran the breakout for my home game, I specified that the armor in the armory was drow-sized, and players who weren't the right size or shape for the drow armor would be considered non-proficient with that armor until they got the armor re-sized -- see Variant: Equipment Sizes in the PH/Basic Rules. The party still took the armor, but the need to find an armorer motivated them to make a bee-line toward the nearest settlement instead of simply wandering without purpose through the Underdark.)--Pauper</blockquote>

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