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<blockquote data-quote="LuckyAdrastus" data-source="post: 5334934" data-attributes="member: 82859"><p>I said some classes are heavily effected by missing their equipment, others much less so.</p><p></p><p>Your response is partially true at high levels, where the wizard misses his +3 wand, and the fighter misses her +3 Bastard Sword.</p><p></p><p>But at 1st level, a naked wizard misses nothing, because he doesn't use armor (barring a feat) and doesn't need an implement to make his attacks. He's just as powerful, combat-wise with our without his equipment.</p><p></p><p>A 1st level fighter who went Str or Con secondary is missing his military weapon (or superior, with a feat) and 9 points of AC from his scale mail and large shield (or just 7 AC if he only uses scale). He might get one or two points of AC from Dex, but he's clearly much, much weaker.</p><p></p><p>Even at high levels, where both the wizard and fighter are missing out on enhancement bonuses for being "naked," weapon users and armor wearers (especially heavy armor wearers) lose more of their combat power from missing their armor. Heavy armor wearers usually don't have Dex or Int to cover their AC when forced into light/no armor. And implement attack still use the same damage dice with or without an implement, whereas weapon users will usually have worse damage dice and proficiency bonuses to attack with improvised weapons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LuckyAdrastus, post: 5334934, member: 82859"] I said some classes are heavily effected by missing their equipment, others much less so. Your response is partially true at high levels, where the wizard misses his +3 wand, and the fighter misses her +3 Bastard Sword. But at 1st level, a naked wizard misses nothing, because he doesn't use armor (barring a feat) and doesn't need an implement to make his attacks. He's just as powerful, combat-wise with our without his equipment. A 1st level fighter who went Str or Con secondary is missing his military weapon (or superior, with a feat) and 9 points of AC from his scale mail and large shield (or just 7 AC if he only uses scale). He might get one or two points of AC from Dex, but he's clearly much, much weaker. Even at high levels, where both the wizard and fighter are missing out on enhancement bonuses for being "naked," weapon users and armor wearers (especially heavy armor wearers) lose more of their combat power from missing their armor. Heavy armor wearers usually don't have Dex or Int to cover their AC when forced into light/no armor. And implement attack still use the same damage dice with or without an implement, whereas weapon users will usually have worse damage dice and proficiency bonuses to attack with improvised weapons. [/QUOTE]
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