Stat a frost giant sorcerer? (and lokiskinder template)

[Nellisir]

Dumped the subtype.

I believe the regular frost giant is done now. I gave the save bonus vs enchantments a name (though not a good one). I picked that as being Ex, but I'm not sure if that should be a racial or morale bonus.

Also, I left polymorph in, but perhaps you want to break that out and turn it into change shape or alter self. That would be more 3.5-ish, I think.

Still awesome. I'll think about the polymorph problem - I was thinking about it today, and wondering if there was a good way to slim down the powers list/eliminate redundant abilities. Unfortunately, I was driving, so it was hard to flip through my rulebooks and notes at the same time.

 

[freyar]

I think polymorph really depends on whether you think the polymorph spell is a problem, but it's not really a big deal in this context.

Any customization thoughts on the sorc? Like spell lists, feats, etc? I'll start that today, I think.

 

[Nellisir]

I think polymorph really depends on whether you think the polymorph spell is a problem, but it's not really a big deal in this context.

It doesn't really bother me, and there's a good chance it will just stay - I'm really just trying to exorcise my conscience of all my half-finished projects by putting the (more or less) finished parts together into a frankenstein's monster-like whole. If it references slightly older rules, tough for people - most of it was written in slightly older times. I decided to update the state blocks to the "current" format because I really like it, but that's about as much effort as I'm going to put in to it (and I got nothing done in the past few days, so I'm even behind on that). Still, templates are the hardest part, and I'm mostly done - just dump feats and magic items and mosnters in, and it'll be good. And free.

Any customization thoughts on the sorc? Like spell lists, feats, etc? I'll start that today, I think.

Anything that synergizes well with existing abilities, or provides a strong new "schtick" or theme, so it's not just another frost giant.

 

[freyar]

Yeah, I have a number of projects that will probably never get done, but there's one almost finished I'd like to do this weekend or soon anyway.

EDIT: I found a small mistake in the full attack line attack bonus for rock throwing in the regular lokiskinder giant above, now fixed.

Sorcerer in next post. Maybe I'll go for self-buffing kind of abilities. I'll also hold a space for those last SLAs.

 

[freyar]

Lokiskinder sorcerer

Here's the start, copied from above. Things changed to final form have bolded headings.

Nari, Lokiskinder Frost Giant Sorcerer 5
Large Giant (Chaotic, Cold)
Hit Dice: 14d8+5d4+95 (170 hp)
Initiative: +3
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares)
Armor Class: 24 (-1 size, +3 Dex, +9 natural, +4 mage armor) touch 12, flat-footed 21
Base Attack/Grapple: +12/+25
Attack: greataxe +20 melee (3d6+13/x3) or slam +20 melee (1d4+9) or rock +15 ranged (2d6+9)
Full Attack: greataxe +20/+13 melee (3d6+13/x3) or 2 slams +20 melee (1d4+9) or rock +15 ranged (2d6+9)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft.
Special Attacks: Rock throwing, Spell-like Abilities, Spells
Special Qualities: Immunity to cold, low-light vision, rock catching, vulnerability to fire, enchantment resistance, summon familiar
Saves: Fort +15, Ref +8, Will +11 (+14 vs enchantments)
Abilities: Str 29, Dex 17, Con 21, Int 15, Wis 16, Cha 20
Skills: Appraise +5 (+7 for woodcarvings), Bluff +14, Climb +22, Concentration +18 (+22 casting defensively), Craft (woodcarving) +20, Diplomacy +7, Disguise +9 (+11 acting in character), Intimidate +20, Listen +5, Sleight of Hand +5, Spellcraft +7, Spot +18, Use Magic Device +5 (+7 related to scrolls)
Feats: Alertness^B, Cleave, Combat Casting, Craft Wand, Extend Spell, Great Cleave, Power Attack, Scribe Scroll, Skill Focus (Appraise)^B
Environment: Cold mountains
Organization: ...
Challenge Rating: 12
Treasure: Standard
Alignment: Chaotic evil
Advancement: -
Level Adjustment: -

Enchantment Resistance (Ex): A lokiskinder frost giant has a +3 bonus to Will saves made against enchantment effects.
Summon Familiar (Su): Nari has a raven familiar.
Rock Throwing (Ex): The range increment is 120 feet for a frost giant’s thrown rocks.
Spells (Sp): Nari is a 5th level sorcerer.
Spells Known (6,8,5; save DC 15 + spell level)
0th - ghost sounds, detect magic, light, mage hand, open/close, read magic
1st - mage armor, magic missile, shocking grasp, true strike
2nd - locate object, spider climb
Nari usually casts an extended mage armor any day she expects to be in danger. This has been included in her stat block.
Spell-like Abilities (Sp): 3/day - baleful polymorph (DC17), disguise self, mislead (DC 18), nondetection (DC 15), polymorph, seeming (DC 17), silent image (DC 13); 1/day - mirage arcana (DC 17), shapechange
Caster level 19th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.
Skills: Lokiskinder frost giants receive a +4 racial bonus on Bluff and Disguise checks. The raven familiar grants a +3 bonus on Appraise checks (listed as Skill Focus (Appraise) as a bonus feat) within one mile and Alertness as a bonus feat when within arm's reach. This benefit is included in the stat block above.

 

[freyar]

Notes:

I chose spells to bolster melee, magic missile for close ranged attacks, and a few other spells to help with rogue-ish activities (I get that vibe from the template, and she seems like a buff thief/assassin type to me).

Skill ranks are Bluff 0+5, Climb 13+0, Concentration 8+5, Craft (woodcarving) 13+5, Intimidate 13+0, Spellcraft 0+5, Spot 13+0 giant+sorc ranks.
total ranks: 68 giant ranks, 20 sorc ranks
Synergies: Appraise from Craft; Diplomacy, Disguise, Intimidate, SoH from Bluff; Use Magic Device from Spellcraft.

I'm calling the Appraise bonus from the familiar Skill Focus (Appraise)^B.

Nari figured she wanted to be a sorcerer sometime in her racial HD and picked up Combat Casting and Extend Spell early.

I noticed that Sovelior & Sage have an error in the frost giant statblock; it should just be a greataxe, not a Huge greataxe.

 

[freyar]

And I believe she's done! I left in the frost giant's greataxe, but maybe you'd want to change out her weapons, your choice.

 

[Nellisir]

Nari figured she wanted to be a sorcerer sometime in her racial HD and picked up Combat Casting and Extend Spell early.

I noticed that Sovelior & Sage have an error in the frost giant statblock; it should just be a greataxe, not a Huge greataxe.

Excellent! It all sounds great to me; I'll copy it and take a look at it tomorrow! Thank you -very- much.