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<blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 6405541" data-attributes="member: 6776887">So will every human be a variant human build then to balance out their lack of non-ability score stuff?Depending on how they use their racial stat bonuses in normal point buy, they will get much more than a 32 point buy in. A halfling rogue spending to get Dex to 15 and its racial bonus taking that to 17 is worth how many more points?As I player, I would want it by the book. As a DM, I have noticed quite a bit of diversity at my table. I have a Half-Gnoll Paladin, Tiefling Wizard, Human Monk, High Elf Eldritch Knight, Lightfoot Halfling Rogue/Monk, Dragonborn Wizard, and Human Cleric (whose player just moved away).&nbsp; The Half-Gnoll Paladin chose an 8 in his Charisma score.&nbsp; The Tiefling and Dragonborn both chose Wizard instead of Sorcerer or Warlock. I personally think that most players play the race they want to play.As a DM, I would say that the 20 ability score max should be set. Otherwise Bounded Accuracy takes a hit. With a +11 to hit around level 17, they will be able to hit pretty much anything&nbsp; anyway, and save DCs will be set at 19 which is ridiculously high. If you go beyond 20, someone would need a nat 20 to make save if the had no bonus in that save.If you keep character creation by the book, you shouldn't get any push back on the 20 stat max.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tormyr, post: 6405541, member: 6776887"] So will every human be a variant human build then to balance out their lack of non-ability score stuff? Depending on how they use their racial stat bonuses in normal point buy, they will get much more than a 32 point buy in. A halfling rogue spending to get Dex to 15 and its racial bonus taking that to 17 is worth how many more points? As I player, I would want it by the book. As a DM, I have noticed quite a bit of diversity at my table. I have a Half-Gnoll Paladin, Tiefling Wizard, Human Monk, High Elf Eldritch Knight, Lightfoot Halfling Rogue/Monk, Dragonborn Wizard, and Human Cleric (whose player just moved away). The Half-Gnoll Paladin chose an 8 in his Charisma score. The Tiefling and Dragonborn both chose Wizard instead of Sorcerer or Warlock. I personally think that most players play the race they want to play. As a DM, I would say that the 20 ability score max should be set. Otherwise Bounded Accuracy takes a hit. With a +11 to hit around level 17, they will be able to hit pretty much anything anyway, and save DCs will be set at 19 which is ridiculously high. If you go beyond 20, someone would need a nat 20 to make save if the had no bonus in that save. If you keep character creation by the book, you shouldn't get any push back on the 20 stat max. [/QUOTE]

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