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<blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 1249902" data-attributes="member: 9410"><p>No cookies, here...</p><p></p><p>In the first case, I see a really lousy Rogue, who will never make a good PC. In the second case, I see a charismatic Ranger who will be good with animals. (I hope he has a decent DEX!)</p><p></p><p>A lot of people seem to make the mistake that you seem to be making... that all characters are equal. I can play a Wizzer (even "win" a tournament module playing one), but frankly, I hate "getting stuck with the Wizard". The class doesn't interest me (in the least, even at epic levels), and I do not enjoy playing it. It stretches my suspension of disbelief past the breaking point. It is no fun, for me. Since 3e is a game, why play it at all, if it's no fun?</p><p></p><p>Some people may enjoy playing each and every combination of race and class, but I have tried a great many, and (where choices are available) always find myself gravitating to a particular type. The Wizzer will never be it, nor can it be "bent" that way.</p><p></p><p>Given the choice between playing the Wizard and not playing, I'd just as soon not play. Given the choice between the Paladin and nothing, I'd probably play the Paladin, but would feel "put upon", because it's not what I want to play!</p><p></p><p>I'm sure some will be shocked to "hear" this, but I assure you, I'm not alone in this. I have a friend who, without fail, always rolls up a Fighter, and another who, if given the choice, will play nothing but a Ranger or Ranger/Rogue... I remember one time when a bunch of us got together for a 1e game, and we all had fighter-types ready to go... Not a Rogue or spellslinger in the entire party! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Oh, I'm sure some people will say that "That's not roleplaying!", or some such hogwash, but the point (to me) is; it's a game, and it's supposed to be fun. If it isn't fun for you, then there's no point in doing it. If shapeshifting Druids or skillless characters turn you off, then you shouldn't have to "suffer" through playing one.</p><p></p><p>Play what's fun for you, and if the stats don't fit, then junk the stats, and start over. 4D6 or Stat-buy, work something out with the GM... And if you can't, find a new GM! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steverooo, post: 1249902, member: 9410"] No cookies, here... In the first case, I see a really lousy Rogue, who will never make a good PC. In the second case, I see a charismatic Ranger who will be good with animals. (I hope he has a decent DEX!) A lot of people seem to make the mistake that you seem to be making... that all characters are equal. I can play a Wizzer (even "win" a tournament module playing one), but frankly, I hate "getting stuck with the Wizard". The class doesn't interest me (in the least, even at epic levels), and I do not enjoy playing it. It stretches my suspension of disbelief past the breaking point. It is no fun, for me. Since 3e is a game, why play it at all, if it's no fun? Some people may enjoy playing each and every combination of race and class, but I have tried a great many, and (where choices are available) always find myself gravitating to a particular type. The Wizzer will never be it, nor can it be "bent" that way. Given the choice between playing the Wizard and not playing, I'd just as soon not play. Given the choice between the Paladin and nothing, I'd probably play the Paladin, but would feel "put upon", because it's not what I want to play! I'm sure some will be shocked to "hear" this, but I assure you, I'm not alone in this. I have a friend who, without fail, always rolls up a Fighter, and another who, if given the choice, will play nothing but a Ranger or Ranger/Rogue... I remember one time when a bunch of us got together for a 1e game, and we all had fighter-types ready to go... Not a Rogue or spellslinger in the entire party! :D Oh, I'm sure some people will say that "That's not roleplaying!", or some such hogwash, but the point (to me) is; it's a game, and it's supposed to be fun. If it isn't fun for you, then there's no point in doing it. If shapeshifting Druids or skillless characters turn you off, then you shouldn't have to "suffer" through playing one. Play what's fun for you, and if the stats don't fit, then junk the stats, and start over. 4D6 or Stat-buy, work something out with the GM... And if you can't, find a new GM! :p [/QUOTE]
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