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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 2773438" data-attributes="member: 35788">While this may be true for the DMG ... and I don't mean to be snyde but merely say that a reference isn't listed so I can't say one way or the other ... the 3.5 PHB is pretty clear that this is not allowed at all.&nbsp; [p.58 last paragraph of the second column.]While the DMG may be fuzzy, the PHB is not.&nbsp; [And ... apparently it is a table that is fuzzy; whereas in the PHB this text is pretty specific] With regard to skill points, magic items are temporary increases.&nbsp; And that makes sense.&nbsp; They are conditional upon the use of the magic item.&nbsp; Temporary items do not have an impact upon skill points at leveling.Now, to draw a parallel - if temporary items are not counted with regard to skill points, a case could be made for not counting them with regard to feats.&nbsp; That is my take.&nbsp; However, this conclusion is admittedly being drawn off of a parallel - not a rule.&nbsp; If a Dm wanted to take on the responsibility of making sure the character met the prereqs and therefore count have a feat under certain circumstances and not others, I think that also would be a reasonable conclusion as long as the DM wanted to assume that responsibility.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 2773438, member: 35788"] While this may be true for the DMG ... and I don't mean to be snyde but merely say that a reference isn't listed so I can't say one way or the other ... the 3.5 PHB is pretty clear that this is not allowed at all. [p.58 last paragraph of the second column.] While the DMG may be fuzzy, the PHB is not. [And ... apparently it is a table that is fuzzy; whereas in the PHB this text is pretty specific] With regard to skill points, magic items are temporary increases. And that makes sense. They are conditional upon the use of the magic item. Temporary items do not have an impact upon skill points at leveling. Now, to draw a parallel - if temporary items are not counted with regard to skill points, a case could be made for not counting them with regard to feats. That is my take. However, this conclusion is admittedly being drawn off of a parallel - not a rule. If a Dm wanted to take on the responsibility of making sure the character met the prereqs and therefore count have a feat under certain circumstances and not others, I think that also would be a reasonable conclusion as long as the DM wanted to assume that responsibility. [/QUOTE]

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