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<blockquote data-quote="IanB" data-source="post: 2782854" data-attributes="member: 1473">How to walk on water or another surface that can't support your weight (DC 90)Be a level 29 rogue. Max ranks in balance would be 32 ranks.Start with a dex of 18 (because you're a halfling or elf in 28 point buy who spent 10 on dex to start with a base 16.) Add 5 of your 7 level up increases to dex, get an inherent bonus of +5, and some epic gloves of dexterity +12. Your dex is now 40. If you're not a halfling or elf, or you're a halfling or elf who saved some points by starting with a 14, you have to spend all 7 on raising dex instead. Either that, or wait a couple more levels to get a couple more ranks.Get some boots of swiftness, which give a +20 competence bonus on balance checks.Take skill focus (balance) and epic skill focus (balance.)Your total balance check is now: +32 (ranks) + 20 (competence bonus) + 13 (feats) + 15 (dex) = +80You can now take 10 and walk on water whenever you feel like it.It cost an epic feat and a regular feat, plus a whole lot of cash (and the decision that balancing was important to you.) 5 out of 7 increases to dex should not be considered unusual for a rogue.I suspect there are easier ways to get to this point via prestige classes or whatever than what I've posited; I was only considering what I found in the SRD that applied.EDIT: You can do this at level 27, actually - I forgot about the +2 synergy bonus you can get from Tumble.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IanB, post: 2782854, member: 1473"] How to walk on water or another surface that can't support your weight (DC 90) Be a level 29 rogue. Max ranks in balance would be 32 ranks. Start with a dex of 18 (because you're a halfling or elf in 28 point buy who spent 10 on dex to start with a base 16.) Add 5 of your 7 level up increases to dex, get an inherent bonus of +5, and some epic gloves of dexterity +12. Your dex is now 40. If you're not a halfling or elf, or you're a halfling or elf who saved some points by starting with a 14, you have to spend all 7 on raising dex instead. Either that, or wait a couple more levels to get a couple more ranks. Get some boots of swiftness, which give a +20 competence bonus on balance checks. Take skill focus (balance) and epic skill focus (balance.) Your total balance check is now: +32 (ranks) + 20 (competence bonus) + 13 (feats) + 15 (dex) = +80 You can now take 10 and walk on water whenever you feel like it. It cost an epic feat and a regular feat, plus a whole lot of cash (and the decision that balancing was important to you.) 5 out of 7 increases to dex should not be considered unusual for a rogue. I suspect there are easier ways to get to this point via prestige classes or whatever than what I've posited; I was only considering what I found in the SRD that applied. EDIT: You can do this at level 27, actually - I forgot about the +2 synergy bonus you can get from Tumble. [/QUOTE]

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