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<blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 2787219" data-attributes="member: 18093"><p>I see. I went looking for my quote and I didn't find it, instead I found an earlier one which was before you began quoting the FAQ. My mistake. </p><p></p><p>In any case, the FAQ section you are quoting is specifically talking about uses per day of special abilities, and your "be all end all" quote was from that section. It deals with turning undead and laying on of hands. You extrapolated that quote, out of context, to apply to everything regarding enhancement bonuses to a stat. The FAQ is flat out wrong in places, contradicting the rules as written, not just clarifying them. It is not definitive, it is in fact flawed. It lends weight to your arguements, it doesn't prove them.</p><p></p><p>Your quote about my arguing that feats don't specify stat modifiers is not accurate either. Perhaps it was a poorly worded example on my part, but you STILL ignore the transient nature of the stat boosting spells and items, and you back it up with a quote taken out of context from a flawed document. The fact that the designers specifically address skill points (a PERMENANT addition to a character) and use a blanket statement addressing all other TEMPORARY uses of an enhanced stat (checks, spells/day, hp etc) tells me pretty plainly that stats enhanced through transient magical means were most assuredly NOT meant to qualify for a permenant change to a character's abilities. You have extrapolated from similar rules (boosted stats granting bonus spells) and so have I, but you claim your quote from the FAQ makes your interpretation better than anyone elses? </p><p></p><p>By your logic, a 2nd level cleric with enough xp to hit 3rd level (and thus choose a new feat) could read a scroll of Divine Power CL8, gain a BAB of +8, then level up and choose Improved Critical. Likewise, a character could be able to cast a divine spell through the use of Imbue w/ Spell Ability to qualify for a feat or PrC, or use a magic item that provided a feat to enter a PrC with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Twowolves, post: 2787219, member: 18093"] I see. I went looking for my quote and I didn't find it, instead I found an earlier one which was before you began quoting the FAQ. My mistake. In any case, the FAQ section you are quoting is specifically talking about uses per day of special abilities, and your "be all end all" quote was from that section. It deals with turning undead and laying on of hands. You extrapolated that quote, out of context, to apply to everything regarding enhancement bonuses to a stat. The FAQ is flat out wrong in places, contradicting the rules as written, not just clarifying them. It is not definitive, it is in fact flawed. It lends weight to your arguements, it doesn't prove them. Your quote about my arguing that feats don't specify stat modifiers is not accurate either. Perhaps it was a poorly worded example on my part, but you STILL ignore the transient nature of the stat boosting spells and items, and you back it up with a quote taken out of context from a flawed document. The fact that the designers specifically address skill points (a PERMENANT addition to a character) and use a blanket statement addressing all other TEMPORARY uses of an enhanced stat (checks, spells/day, hp etc) tells me pretty plainly that stats enhanced through transient magical means were most assuredly NOT meant to qualify for a permenant change to a character's abilities. You have extrapolated from similar rules (boosted stats granting bonus spells) and so have I, but you claim your quote from the FAQ makes your interpretation better than anyone elses? By your logic, a 2nd level cleric with enough xp to hit 3rd level (and thus choose a new feat) could read a scroll of Divine Power CL8, gain a BAB of +8, then level up and choose Improved Critical. Likewise, a character could be able to cast a divine spell through the use of Imbue w/ Spell Ability to qualify for a feat or PrC, or use a magic item that provided a feat to enter a PrC with it. [/QUOTE]
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