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<blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 2788309" data-attributes="member: 18093"><p>It applied across the board....how? Because you say it does? Because you interpret it that way and anyone else who disagrees is wrong? I haven't shown any less evidence than you have. We both quoted rules, used the similar rule analogy, and extrapolated what we each thought was a correct assumption. Only YOU can't let it go. I have shown why I think the way I do, and you just fall back on the same line, ignoring everything else you don't like. I don't see why you still care, seeing as how you already stated that in addition to feats, you'd let spells and magic items to meet prerequisites for PrCs too, no matter how silly, illogical or nonsensical. All in the name of the holy writ of the FAQ</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't have to show a thing. This isn't a court or trial. I say the FAQ is in error in some places, therefore the ENTIRE DOCUMENT is untrustworthy. Fruit of the poisonous tree. If it's wrong on polymorph, it very well could be wrong here, and therefor you shouldn't take it as gospel.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, I see. "Cast a spell" only <strong>really </strong> means "cast a spell" when it's convenient for <strong>you</strong>, even though the SRD says the subject "Casts" the spell, what, 3 times? Talk about ignoring evidence you don't like.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Riiiiight. Kinda like there is no ambiguity in the phrase "casts the spell", and you still interpret that to mean something else, and for no other reason than because it supports your side and no other. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the problem here is not my alleged ambiguity, but your obstinance. I was trying to show correlation between ability score enhancing items enabling feats, and other similar effects enabling other, similar benefits. You gladly shout from the mountaintops all about ehnahncement bonuses to ablitiy scores, but blithely danced around Polymorph and Imbue with Spell Ability for almost 3 pages. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. <em>I </em> have to define "temporary effect" and not "temporary". Whatever. Temporary is already defined by Merriam-Webster:</p><p></p><p></p><p>So then, I not only have to define a common word, codify it in some rules set to placate you, and then point out the blatantly obvious use of the word in context, all so you can claim I'm inserting a house rule? Nice try. Well, not really.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sound to me like you enjoying hosing a player who's munchkin enough to try cheezing his way into a feat or PrC this way. That's not risk, that's ruining another character's build. Would you also warn a rogue that not everything is susceptible to sneak attack damage, then constantly throw undead/constructs/oozes at them? Risk is hanging on in combat for just another round or two, trying to swing the tide of battle, when both sides are near defeat. Risk is being down on spells, healing and hp, but trying just one more door in the dungeon. Risk is trying an unexpected maneuver in combat, changing the tempo of the fight. Having your character gimped by the DM with a Dispel Magic, isn't risk, nor fun. It's unfair.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Twowolves, post: 2788309, member: 18093"] It applied across the board....how? Because you say it does? Because you interpret it that way and anyone else who disagrees is wrong? I haven't shown any less evidence than you have. We both quoted rules, used the similar rule analogy, and extrapolated what we each thought was a correct assumption. Only YOU can't let it go. I have shown why I think the way I do, and you just fall back on the same line, ignoring everything else you don't like. I don't see why you still care, seeing as how you already stated that in addition to feats, you'd let spells and magic items to meet prerequisites for PrCs too, no matter how silly, illogical or nonsensical. All in the name of the holy writ of the FAQ I don't have to show a thing. This isn't a court or trial. I say the FAQ is in error in some places, therefore the ENTIRE DOCUMENT is untrustworthy. Fruit of the poisonous tree. If it's wrong on polymorph, it very well could be wrong here, and therefor you shouldn't take it as gospel. Ah, I see. "Cast a spell" only [B]really [/B] means "cast a spell" when it's convenient for [B]you[/B], even though the SRD says the subject "Casts" the spell, what, 3 times? Talk about ignoring evidence you don't like. Riiiiight. Kinda like there is no ambiguity in the phrase "casts the spell", and you still interpret that to mean something else, and for no other reason than because it supports your side and no other. I think the problem here is not my alleged ambiguity, but your obstinance. I was trying to show correlation between ability score enhancing items enabling feats, and other similar effects enabling other, similar benefits. You gladly shout from the mountaintops all about ehnahncement bonuses to ablitiy scores, but blithely danced around Polymorph and Imbue with Spell Ability for almost 3 pages. Right. [I]I [/I] have to define "temporary effect" and not "temporary". Whatever. Temporary is already defined by Merriam-Webster: So then, I not only have to define a common word, codify it in some rules set to placate you, and then point out the blatantly obvious use of the word in context, all so you can claim I'm inserting a house rule? Nice try. Well, not really. Sound to me like you enjoying hosing a player who's munchkin enough to try cheezing his way into a feat or PrC this way. That's not risk, that's ruining another character's build. Would you also warn a rogue that not everything is susceptible to sneak attack damage, then constantly throw undead/constructs/oozes at them? Risk is hanging on in combat for just another round or two, trying to swing the tide of battle, when both sides are near defeat. Risk is being down on spells, healing and hp, but trying just one more door in the dungeon. Risk is trying an unexpected maneuver in combat, changing the tempo of the fight. Having your character gimped by the DM with a Dispel Magic, isn't risk, nor fun. It's unfair. [/QUOTE]
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