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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scupper" data-source="post: 323321" data-attributes="member: 2593">I knew I'd be in trouble if we went beyond the Core Rules. Well, I can't debate your interpretation using the Swashbuckling Adventures rules, as I do not have them. However, I would have to take issue with your contention that Westley is somehow of a lower level than Inigo, making up for a lack of skill with some incredibly high stats. This is not even remotely possible.Unless Inigo's stats are pretty poor (no indication of that), Westley couldn't make up the difference in tumbling (clearly much better) and swordplay (he's obviously just trying to make Inigo feel like he's not getting his ass kicked). Plus we have to give Westley at least a few ranks in Perform (witty banter, panache), Climb (obviously) and Bluff ("Now we find out who is right, and who is dead.")Plus, we can't discount the fact that Westley's ship is, "inconceivably," faster than Vizzini's (the "Wind at Your Back" ability of the Dread Pirate class). We should also remember that, as the Dread Pirate Roberts, Westley has a "Fearsome Reputation," another feature of the Dread Pirate Class.Even rated solely by his Duelist class levels, it's likely that Westley is of a higher level than Inigo (in addition to posessing a higher Dex), but his other talents clearly set him well beyond Inigo in overall character level.While it may be possible that Westley's player has totally fudged his die rolls, that sort of misbehavior is outside the realm of a rules discussion and is best dealt with in a discussion of player misconduct. And even so, if Westley had an 18 Dex bumped up twice (at 4th and 8th level) to 20, he'd still have only a +5 stat modifier. While Inigo may not be quite that dexterous, it's highly unlikely that he has less than a +2 or +3 stat modifier in that arena. Thus, even a phenomenal Dex couldn't create the obvious gap in ability between the two characters.</blockquote>

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