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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9042179" data-attributes="member: 6684958">They sure feel dead.......I started reading Marvel Comics in the 70/80s.&nbsp; Lots of action, but also a big back drop of very ADULT storytelling.&nbsp; Tony Starks alcoholism, the Armor Wars, Hank&nbsp; Pym abuser, Hank Pym almost taking his own life, and Mockingbird killer the foe that abducted her and hiding that from her 'never kill' husband....and more.&nbsp; The start of the 90's brought even more &quot;graphic&quot; content.&nbsp; The days when Cable, Deadpool, Bishop, Wolverine, Ghost Rider would outright KILL foes.&nbsp; This did not last.&nbsp; Soon enough Cable and Bishop would miss when shooting their guns...or set their guns to &quot;stun&quot;.&nbsp; Wolverine would do the INSANE move of &quot;saying a one liner&quot; and popping out his claws, run towards his foe, SHEATH HIS CLAWS, and then just punch the foe.&nbsp; Maybe my favorite was Ghost Rider, who in issue #3 punches and SLAUGHTERS a ninja with a sword.&nbsp; Only to have that be reconed&nbsp; in like issue #34 that &quot;oh that ninja was a demon hiding among the human ninjas and Ghost Rider could &quot;sense&quot; that he was not human and THAT is why he (did not) kill him.I got to read all the mostly well done &quot;Summer Crossovers&quot; that really made Marvel famous.&nbsp; I read the Silver Surfer with the loooong Thantos story arc.&nbsp; Then the Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War and Infinity Crusade.&nbsp; Then....we get to 2000 ish.&nbsp; Most of the books I read are cancelled.&nbsp; Only a few new ones hold my intrest, doom 2099 and Thunderbolts.&nbsp; I keep on with the Avengers and Thor....though they both get canceled.&nbsp;&nbsp; All the older creators are gone.&nbsp; Some of the newer ones are good, most are average....or worse.&nbsp; By 2010 I just stop reading.I flip through some at the library&nbsp;from time to time.......and it's pure gibberish.&nbsp; Infinity this, War that, Secret that and whatever else.&nbsp; Everything is a big huge event with tons of characters.&nbsp; And everything is like Marvel Cinematic:&nbsp; a huge page of just one character saying a one liner, zing!&nbsp; Thantos steals the Phoenix Force, but Odin is best friends with cave woman Jean Gray Phoenix and barbarian Ghost Rider who rides a Wolly Mammoth...and they 'stop' him by talking about how cool they are......or something.&nbsp; And it gets worse from there.So, I can only get my comic fix from reading all the old stuff...that they nicely put out in books for me to read.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 9042179, member: 6684958"] They sure feel dead....... I started reading Marvel Comics in the 70/80s. Lots of action, but also a big back drop of very ADULT storytelling. Tony Starks alcoholism, the Armor Wars, Hank Pym abuser, Hank Pym almost taking his own life, and Mockingbird killer the foe that abducted her and hiding that from her 'never kill' husband....and more. The start of the 90's brought even more "graphic" content. The days when Cable, Deadpool, Bishop, Wolverine, Ghost Rider would outright KILL foes. This did not last. Soon enough Cable and Bishop would miss when shooting their guns...or set their guns to "stun". Wolverine would do the INSANE move of "saying a one liner" and popping out his claws, run towards his foe, SHEATH HIS CLAWS, and then just punch the foe. Maybe my favorite was Ghost Rider, who in issue #3 punches and SLAUGHTERS a ninja with a sword. Only to have that be reconed in like issue #34 that "oh that ninja was a demon hiding among the human ninjas and Ghost Rider could "sense" that he was not human and THAT is why he (did not) kill him. I got to read all the mostly well done "Summer Crossovers" that really made Marvel famous. I read the Silver Surfer with the loooong Thantos story arc. Then the Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War and Infinity Crusade. Then....we get to 2000 ish. Most of the books I read are cancelled. Only a few new ones hold my intrest, doom 2099 and Thunderbolts. I keep on with the Avengers and Thor....though they both get canceled. All the older creators are gone. Some of the newer ones are good, most are average....or worse. By 2010 I just stop reading. I flip through some at the library from time to time.......and it's pure gibberish. Infinity this, War that, Secret that and whatever else. Everything is a big huge event with tons of characters. And everything is like Marvel Cinematic: a huge page of just one character saying a one liner, zing! Thantos steals the Phoenix Force, but Odin is best friends with cave woman Jean Gray Phoenix and barbarian Ghost Rider who rides a Wolly Mammoth...and they 'stop' him by talking about how cool they are......or something. And it gets worse from there. So, I can only get my comic fix from reading all the old stuff...that they nicely put out in books for me to read. [/QUOTE]

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