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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6787454" data-attributes="member: 177">And I have a pretty good feeling that you've been around long enough to know that you're not supposed to make it personal.&nbsp; But you did it anyway.Please stop doing it.&nbsp; Now.&nbsp; Thanks.Now, we see the dynamic of making it personal play out.&nbsp; Seebs, here, fell into the trap.&nbsp; The personal comment has made him snarky (snark will not convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you) , and try to build up some seeming authority, as if his personal experience as a foundation for an appeal to his personal authority was going to be rhetorically sound.&nbsp; This has become less about the topic than it is about their egos.Once this has happened, real discourse on the subject between these two people is pretty much done.&nbsp; So, the two you you probably want to consider your conversation done.&nbsp; Whatever you do, do not continue in this head-butting, argumentative vein, or you'll have to be removed from the discussion entirely.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6787454, member: 177"] [color=darkorange]And I have a pretty good feeling that you've been around long enough to know that you're not supposed to make it personal. But you did it anyway. Please stop doing it. Now. Thanks.[/color] [color=darkorange] Now, we see the dynamic of making it personal play out. Seebs, here, fell into the trap. The personal comment has made him snarky (snark will not convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you) , and try to build up some seeming authority, as if his personal experience as a foundation for an appeal to his personal authority was going to be rhetorically sound. This has become less about the topic than it is about their egos. Once this has happened, real discourse on the subject between these two people is pretty much done. So, the two you you probably want to consider your conversation done. Whatever you do, do not continue in this head-butting, argumentative vein, or you'll have to be removed from the discussion entirely.[/color] [/QUOTE]

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