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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6787997" data-attributes="member: 2525">I started playing in 1977.  I played both Basic/Expert, and AD&D 1e.  I've played D&D for 38 years.  So please, put the "My D&D Experience Wiener is Bigger Than Yours" argument back in your pants.  We have a disagreement.  That's not the same as you being smarter or more experienced than me simply because we disagree.  It's entirely possible, and a possibility you should consider, that we simply see things differently despite having similar backgrounds with the game.  STOP talking about the "boss fight".  That's a strawman.  It's not what I was talking about, it was never what I was talking about, and I've explained that twice already.  I said it was RELATED TO the boss fight (because a Boss is often a single creature) in my first post about this, but then said it's NOT the boss fight and that I am just talking about the Solo monster.  If you look at those early adventures, there are LOTS AND LOTS of rooms with just one single monster in them - a solo.  That's what I am talking about.  Get it now?Well given I explained that twice already, yes.There were some boss fights way back when (though again, this is a distraction and not the topic I was referring to).  Gygax liked Demogorgon and Orcus. He liked Bahamut and Tiamat. He liked Juiblex and Yeenoghu, Asmodeus, Baalzebul, Dispater, and Geryon. He liked Baphomet, Fraz-Urb'luu, Graz’zt, and Pazuzu and the devils Belial, Mammon, and Moloch. He liked Lolth, Zuggtmoy, Tharizdun, Iuz, Iggwilv, and Vecna.  Some of these were major villains in his games, others he imagined would be used by DMs in their games as major villains.  He did imagine PCs would end up eventually facing these creatures, often to end campaigns.  This was a pretty well established concept for him.  But, again, that's not really the topic I was speaking to.Only because I said Solo Monster, and then put in parenthesis "related to a boss fight" and you ran with "boss fight" as if that was what I was talking about, despite my repeatedly saying "whoa hey wait that's not what I am talking about".</blockquote>

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