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<blockquote data-quote="Appleseeth" data-source="post: 4599103" data-attributes="member: 72496">The way I see it, the DM should not just be some tool to be abused at the will and whim of the players. I, as a DM, am a player as well, and I have just as much a right to enjoy playing the game as well. If the players set up a bakery* and ignore every type of hook I throw at them (bad hooks are subjective, hobo), then I find it unlikely that I'll be having fun. I cannot, I will not DM that, or anything where the players are actively killing my enjoyment of the game, just as any player should jump ship if they're not having fun.I am sure there are some DMs out there who actively enjoy refeering the player's day-to-day operation of a bakery. I am sure there are players out there who enjoy not having to think up adventure motivation, and thus don't care about DMs railroading them. The rules system may support both of those activities. But I don't think it's in the spirit of the game to just run a bakery*. In fact I think it's less in the spirit of the game than a little DM railroading once in a while, to get the players moving along. That is MY opinion, and I'm sure it's at least partially shared by some of the other ENWorld members. Just because the rules support an activity, does not mean that is what the game is about. D&amp;D is about heroic adventuring.Also, people, don't make judgements on people's hooks when you have neither heard them, or have had them used in context.* Bakery is just an easy example to use. It is not the end-all be-all of what Station Squatting is or might be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Appleseeth, post: 4599103, member: 72496"] The way I see it, the DM should not just be some tool to be abused at the will and whim of the players. I, as a DM, am a player as well, and I have just as much a right to enjoy playing the game as well. If the players set up a bakery* and ignore every type of hook I throw at them (bad hooks are subjective, hobo), then I find it unlikely that I'll be having fun. I cannot, I will not DM that, or anything where the players are actively killing my enjoyment of the game, just as any player should jump ship if they're not having fun. I am sure there are some DMs out there who actively enjoy refeering the player's day-to-day operation of a bakery. I am sure there are players out there who enjoy not having to think up adventure motivation, and thus don't care about DMs railroading them. The rules system may support both of those activities. But I don't think it's in the spirit of the game to just run a bakery*. In fact I think it's less in the spirit of the game than a little DM railroading once in a while, to get the players moving along. That is MY opinion, and I'm sure it's at least partially shared by some of the other ENWorld members. Just because the rules support an activity, does not mean that is what the game is about. D&D is about heroic adventuring. Also, people, don't make judgements on people's hooks when you have neither heard them, or have had them used in context. * Bakery is just an easy example to use. It is not the end-all be-all of what Station Squatting is or might be. [/QUOTE]

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