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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vymair" data-source="post: 336697" data-attributes="member: 116">The following opinion is from a man whose core 3e characters (not counting OA) are a ranger and a druid, so keep that in mind <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.It is my opinion that most people play the core four because everyone "knows" that you have to have those 4 classes to be successful.  I don't agree, but that seems to be popular opinion. My personal opinion is that many people undervalue the classes with 4+ skills and don't look at class skill lists enough.   IMC, where the characters are closing in on highlevels, we have come to realize that +20 in a skill is a POWERFUL ability especially if it is in one of the key skills (spot, listen, hide, silent, concentration, diplomacy, sense motive, search, tumble,  etc).  The classes near the bottom of the power list are almost all high skill classes.As for you and your friends choices of cleric over druid and Rog/Sor over Bard, I'm unclear on why you think those are preferable.  The Bard will have more hps, higher level spells and his perform abilities.   While, he will not have the direct damage spells the sorceror has, he will have slow, charm monster, etc 4 full levels before an evenly split rog/sor.While their seems to be a belief on these boards that druids are much weaker than clerics, I respectfully disagree.  I didn't respond to the poll posted, but if I had I think I would have put Druids at the very top of the list.   Second best healer, 3rd best nukers and the ability to wildshape into to creatures with 25+ strengths at 8th level make the druid the most flexible character in the game system.</blockquote>

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