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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tarchon" data-source="post: 339626" data-attributes="member: 5990">_Some_ of them sure, but not all.  AND Countersong is a continuous effect, so as long as you have it running (one use can be kept up for 10 rounds), it continuously blocks what you call "instantaneous" effects as well.  How do you know a destrachan attacks with sound when you first see it?  Hmm... could it be... Bardic Knowledge?  How do you use CS against an "instantaneous" spell.  Ready it like you do a counterspell, or if you already know an opponent uses those spells, you just start it up and keep it going.  I certainly do agree that Countersong is not the most useful ability (though partly because my DMs never use sound attacks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />), but you completely failed to understand how it works.  Your comments and the number of them that I and others have had to correct make it quite clear that you really don't know much about the class (and certain other aspects of the rules), so why do you persist in asserting your conclusions with such vehemence?  Das scheint mir nicht so klug.Yeah, and why is it a worse way to do it than casting a spell?  Your argument was that it's useless.  I see that now you've retreated to "just another way to get things done."  OK, that's my point.  Bard abilities, the knowledge, the songs, the BAB, the save, the skills, the hps, that's what makes up for the difference in spell power.Piffle.  Sorcerers are under-skilled spell-casting, familiar-using characters or they're nothing.  Fighters are fighting characters or they're nothing.  Clerics are god-worshipping sepll-casting semi-fighting characters or they're nothing.  Druids are spell-casting nature-loving characters or they're nothing.  You have no point to make here other than that you just don't like the bard class.</blockquote>

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