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<blockquote data-quote="Kaptain_Kantrip" data-source="post: 69677" data-attributes="member: 546">I generally ignore anything that happened in Planescape, the Time of Troubles, or the Greyhawk Wars. It's much easier (and less lame that way). I say make whatever changes YOU feel comfortable with and forget the rest. Make NO changes unless YOU want to. Frankly, I see little benefit in trying to keep MY campaign world in sync with that of various TSR/WoTC products. They don't know my campaign and the changes they make to the official settings are rarely ones I would make in my own. So I ignore them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />I believe the &quot;Creature Catalog&quot; has 3e stats for Baphomet, Fraz-Urb'Luu, Juiblex, etc. Not sure about Zuggtmoy being in there. The last I heard of Juiblex was he was an avatar or demigod servant of the FR power Ghaunadaur (aka The Elder Elemental God from GH's GDQ series); this info was vague and was listed in the excellent TSR early 90s sourcebook for 2e, Monster Mythology. Demogorgon was also in there. In Planescape, Orcus supposedly became a greater god called Tenebrous, went on a divine rampage killing other gods, then was destroyed. However, nobody liked that lame idea and he popped up in 3e in a recent DUNGEON mag with official stats, conveniently restored to his previous name and level of power (much like Bane in the FR). Nobody likes their favorite evil gods being killed off (Bane, Bhaal, Myrkul, Orcus, etc.), so why TSR did that is beyond me... Then again, much of what TSR did after Gygax left is beyond me! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaptain_Kantrip, post: 69677, member: 546"] I generally ignore anything that happened in Planescape, the Time of Troubles, or the Greyhawk Wars. It's much easier (and less lame that way). I say make whatever changes YOU feel comfortable with and forget the rest. Make NO changes unless YOU want to. Frankly, I see little benefit in trying to keep MY campaign world in sync with that of various TSR/WoTC products. They don't know my campaign and the changes they make to the official settings are rarely ones I would make in my own. So I ignore them. :D I believe the "Creature Catalog" has 3e stats for Baphomet, Fraz-Urb'Luu, Juiblex, etc. Not sure about Zuggtmoy being in there. The last I heard of Juiblex was he was an avatar or demigod servant of the FR power Ghaunadaur (aka The Elder Elemental God from GH's GDQ series); this info was vague and was listed in the excellent TSR early 90s sourcebook for 2e, Monster Mythology. Demogorgon was also in there. In Planescape, Orcus supposedly became a greater god called Tenebrous, went on a divine rampage killing other gods, then was destroyed. However, nobody liked that lame idea and he popped up in 3e in a recent DUNGEON mag with official stats, conveniently restored to his previous name and level of power (much like Bane in the FR). Nobody likes their favorite evil gods being killed off (Bane, Bhaal, Myrkul, Orcus, etc.), so why TSR did that is beyond me... Then again, much of what TSR did after Gygax left is beyond me! :D [/QUOTE]

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