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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Harold as a Verb" data-source="post: 928289" data-attributes="member: 11874">Re: Good Point Harold....but !!!!We haven't found a lack of diversity or spice a problem, although I guess some groups might. And if you are someone who really loves the random factor, then I doubt our humble system is very appropriate. As a group though, we really like our way ... it's one of the few fortunate things have a complete consensus about. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />NB: All this is before racial modifiers, so that adds some variety, and also adds quite a lot to the thoughtful decisions that have do be made about making the character. (It seems that sometimes having a simple, but quite restricted system can make the character creation process more demanding in terms of the few-but-vital decisions that have to be made.) Regardless, we end up with the characters we want to play and enjoy playing (we use the FR setting, btw), and (e.g.) Valettan the Aasimar Bard/Harper Scout really does look very different to T'Karask the Human (Bedine) Barbarian/Sorcerer ( <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> !).Re: using +1d4 instead; as we don't use weighted buy with the extra points this *might* be too much (although that is campaign dependent). It doesn't strike me as a good thing to have a basic, core level 1 character with a single potential attribute of 21 (15 +4 extra +2 (from race) for example) or more, but YMMV as they say. In a slightly higher-powered campaign I might suggest something along the lines of +2d2 extra points, but any one attribute may only recieve up to an additional 2 points from the pool of extra points (ie, prior to racial modifiers).(Perhaps?)I'm just thinking out loud, really.</blockquote>

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