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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 928455" data-attributes="member: 3146">Re: Re: Good Point Harold....but !!!!I'll second that. I showed up to my first Living Arcanis table with a first level Val (human with divine blood--no feat, a few special abilities) barbarian Str 16, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 10. The guy across the table from me was also starting a character--first level human barbarian with nearly the exact same stats (he had a 10 int and a 12 charisma). But the characters? Nothing alike. And I don't think anyone who's played with both of them would think of them as &quot;cookie cutter&quot; despite their similar stats. (They've developed quite differently too and so at 7th level, I imagine my character looks very different from the other one). For that matter, it might be worth comparing my main Living Greyhawk character with another one.My character:Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 10hisStr 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 10Both first level lawful (one neutral, one good) human fighters with (I believe--I never played with his character) Dodge, Power Attack, and Cleave. Both of them Pholtans too. (I used to live in the area that corresponds to the Theocracy of the Pale in Living Greyhawk). Mechanically, they looked very similar at first level. But nobody would mistake one for the other. And now that they're both 8th to 11th level, mechanically they look nothing alike.Cookie cutter characters are a problem of creativity and intent; stats have very little to do with it. (&quot;I'm a lawful good human fighter with a 14 strength&quot; is not a character concept; &quot;I'm a peasant farmer's eldest son from a small town who ran out of money and had to get a job guarding a caravan before he could complete his magical studies&quot; or &quot;I'm a loyal citizen of the Theocracy from a long line of soldiers carrying on the family tradition&quot; are character concepts).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 928455, member: 3146"] [b]Re: Re: Good Point Harold....but !!!![/b] I'll second that. I showed up to my first Living Arcanis table with a first level Val (human with divine blood--no feat, a few special abilities) barbarian Str 16, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 10. The guy across the table from me was also starting a character--first level human barbarian with nearly the exact same stats (he had a 10 int and a 12 charisma). But the characters? Nothing alike. And I don't think anyone who's played with both of them would think of them as "cookie cutter" despite their similar stats. (They've developed quite differently too and so at 7th level, I imagine my character looks very different from the other one). For that matter, it might be worth comparing my main Living Greyhawk character with another one. My character: Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 10 his Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 10 Both first level lawful (one neutral, one good) human fighters with (I believe--I never played with his character) Dodge, Power Attack, and Cleave. Both of them Pholtans too. (I used to live in the area that corresponds to the Theocracy of the Pale in Living Greyhawk). Mechanically, they looked very similar at first level. But nobody would mistake one for the other. And now that they're both 8th to 11th level, mechanically they look nothing alike. Cookie cutter characters are a problem of creativity and intent; stats have very little to do with it. ("I'm a lawful good human fighter with a 14 strength" is not a character concept; "I'm a peasant farmer's eldest son from a small town who ran out of money and had to get a job guarding a caravan before he could complete his magical studies" or "I'm a loyal citizen of the Theocracy from a long line of soldiers carrying on the family tradition" are character concepts). [/QUOTE]

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