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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kingius" data-source="post: 5967033" data-attributes="member: 85123">Remember my closing comment on this one: a mage without rest is doomed. This is just inescapable.The core classes are complementary to each other. How do you think your 10th level wizard survives to become 10th level? I think you lot are simply rolling up mid or high level wizards and going from there. Some of these arguments put forward are definitely nonsense. Summons expire and are no replacement for a fighter, they are not even supposed to be. You've ignored all of the points in the fighter's favour which have been raised and while your own points have been pulled to pieces, your unable to take on the fighters strengths at all. The wizard runs out of spells given enough encounters, this is fact... and then he must rest. If he cannot rest, he is utterly doomed. The fighter, on the other hand, will keep you alive. Have any of you actually played D&D in a party? Surely you must have done. It is odd to have to explain the basics of party dynamics.</blockquote>