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<blockquote data-quote="kingius" data-source="post: 5967450" data-attributes="member: 85123"><p>Dandu, I do appreciate the effort you are going to here with rolling up characters to attempt to prove that the fighter is a waste of time in some sort of one on one contest that you think will therefore prove your point. However, you are actually proving a different point when you do this, one that isn't being made against you - nobody said that the wizard is not powerful.</p><p></p><p>What was said is that it is a myth that the fighter is a poor choice at high levels. No amount of rolling up wizards is going to prove that right or wrong. It's the fighter that is in question in this myth, not a mage.</p><p></p><p>Everybody knows that the mage is powerful at high levels. What everybody seems to forget is that the fighter is, too. All this talk about teleporting back home to rest is entirely situational. Is his home in range? Is his home actually safe? All this talk about listing a number of spells to protect a mage assumes the mage is a high enough level to cast them - and he may blow them all in one encounter anyway. All this is distraction away from the main point: a high level fighter IS very powerful, he never tires, he always fights at peak performance, his multiple attacks with a +5 weapon, high strength and combat feats make him extremely useful in any party. Just remember, the mage is vulnerable when he's out of spells, in antimagic zones, when silenced, or even just when the enemy makes a saving throw (against the odds) at a critical moment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kingius, post: 5967450, member: 85123"] Dandu, I do appreciate the effort you are going to here with rolling up characters to attempt to prove that the fighter is a waste of time in some sort of one on one contest that you think will therefore prove your point. However, you are actually proving a different point when you do this, one that isn't being made against you - nobody said that the wizard is not powerful. What was said is that it is a myth that the fighter is a poor choice at high levels. No amount of rolling up wizards is going to prove that right or wrong. It's the fighter that is in question in this myth, not a mage. Everybody knows that the mage is powerful at high levels. What everybody seems to forget is that the fighter is, too. All this talk about teleporting back home to rest is entirely situational. Is his home in range? Is his home actually safe? All this talk about listing a number of spells to protect a mage assumes the mage is a high enough level to cast them - and he may blow them all in one encounter anyway. All this is distraction away from the main point: a high level fighter IS very powerful, he never tires, he always fights at peak performance, his multiple attacks with a +5 weapon, high strength and combat feats make him extremely useful in any party. Just remember, the mage is vulnerable when he's out of spells, in antimagic zones, when silenced, or even just when the enemy makes a saving throw (against the odds) at a critical moment. [/QUOTE]
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