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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5967453" data-attributes="member: 85158"><a href="http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/profiler/view_char.php?cid=31460" target="_blank">Then here is a level 12 fighter</a>. What fearsome challenges shall he have to face, and how well does he fare in them and contribute to his party? Teleport has a range of thousands of miles. Now, time constraints may prevent resting to regain spells... but tell me, how is a fighter regaining his hit points if he has no time to rest, barring shenanagans like Persisted Mass Vigor (a spell) or certain feat combinations? Furthermore, what good is he going to do by himself once the party spellcasters have run dry?Rope Trick, a level 2 spell, creates a personal extradimensional hiding space. That's pretty safe. Higher level spells like Magnificent Mansion are more stylish. Or, you know, he might not. Restrainet and resource management can work wonders.Fighters are not immune to fatigue, exhaustion, sleep deprivation, or hunger as class features last time I checked.  Unless suffering from one of the aforementioned status effects, or when out of hit points.Produce for me the ocular proof.Show me how he makes himself extremely useful. Make a fighter (or use mine) and pull out some monsters for him to fight. Let's see how many attacks he gets, and at what attack bonus are they? Are they high enough that he can can justify his place numerically. We could start with an <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/hydra.htm#cryohydra" target="_blank">11 headed Cryohydra</a>, or a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/basilisk.htm#abyssalGreaterBasilisk" target="_blank">Greater Abyssal Baslisk</a>, or a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/monstrousScorpion.htm" target="_blank">Colossal Monstrous Scorpion</a>, or a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/purpleWorm.htm" target="_blank">Purple Worm</a>, or a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/frostWorm.htm" target="_blank">Frost Worm</a>, or maybe a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#brassDragon" target="_blank">Brass Dragon</a>.</blockquote>

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