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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5967871" data-attributes="member: 8461">You do realize that it's just poor for a troll to accuse someone else of trolling?This isn't the case when the majority of a spellcaster's spells are expended.I'm not sure why you think that a wizard can regain all of their hit points by just resting for a day, but a wizard who loses all of their resources is going to need a new spellbook, which takes more than a day of rest.Again, provably false. Leaving aside issues of having the right spells, having them work (e.g. successful save), counter-measures, etc. that doesn't mean that you'll know an NPC's game stats.You keep going on about summons, despite their short durations, vulnerability to being dispelled or dismissed, defeated by protection spells, etc. That's assuming the wizard has any at all.So can fighters, re: magic items. How effective is a spellcaster that can't cast any spells (using them all, antimagic field, silence, etc.)?If you need to teleport to close the gap to your enemy, then this is hardly the sort of combat that's likely to happen all of the time, and so serves as a poor example. Spellcasters can't do those things without expending more spell resources, which are limited and (as I've said before) leave them more and more vulnerable the more they use.See above. A wizard with no gear is useful only until they've used their spells. A fighter with no gear is useful as soon as they make a disarm check.Actually, my responses above prove that only in a very narrow and contained set of circumstances will fighters ever not be able to compete. Given that there's going to be an unknown number of relatively unpredictable scenarios happening in a given day, the spellcaster's need to diversify actually works against him, since he doesn't know what to prepare to meet the challenges ahead. Plus, as he uses those spells that are useful, he grows less and less competent.Batman is never out of spells for the day. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />It's more correct to say that he's a fighter/rogue with a lot of skill points.</blockquote>

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