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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4616654" data-attributes="member: 1054">If that's how it was interpreted, I must have been unclear, and I am sorry. It was not my intent. My comments were entirely based on the claim it was going to be released in time for the 4e release, which seemed improbable to me based on the &quot;It was at alpha in December&quot; comment. Five months from alpha to release of a networked, 3-d game platform incorporating rules still under development just didn't make sense to me then, and it certainly seems that my instincts were correct. His statement about playing a game on it seemed, at least to me, to be evidence in support of the larger claim that the program would be good to go by the release of 4e, which struck me as very unlikely. If I was wrong in that interpretation, then I apologize. My experience is that a program can be, or seem, &quot;functional&quot; in a controlled environment and still be a very long way from finished. The ability to use a program to do exactly what the developers have set it up to do, with them watching over you to make sure you only enter the right values and don't do anything &quot;wrong&quot;, is not evidence that the program is going to work well in the real world. The fact that the game table &quot;demo reel&quot; we've all seen looked good and complete, but game table is still in limbo with an unannounced new release date, should be proof of that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4616654, member: 1054"] If that's how it was interpreted, I must have been unclear, and I am sorry. It was not my intent. My comments were entirely based on the claim it was going to be released in time for the 4e release, which seemed improbable to me based on the "It was at alpha in December" comment. Five months from alpha to release of a networked, 3-d game platform incorporating rules still under development just didn't make sense to me then, and it certainly seems that my instincts were correct. His statement about playing a game on it seemed, at least to me, to be evidence in support of the larger claim that the program would be good to go by the release of 4e, which struck me as very unlikely. If I was wrong in that interpretation, then I apologize. My experience is that a program can be, or seem, "functional" in a controlled environment and still be a very long way from finished. The ability to use a program to do exactly what the developers have set it up to do, with them watching over you to make sure you only enter the right values and don't do anything "wrong", is not evidence that the program is going to work well in the real world. The fact that the game table "demo reel" we've all seen looked good and complete, but game table is still in limbo with an unannounced new release date, should be proof of that. [/QUOTE]

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