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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4617027" data-attributes="member: 1054">Oh, I'm not mad. I think 4e is perfectly playable without it. I think it was a silly idea from the start, it reeked of someone from Hasbro saying &quot;This Dungeons whatsis, it's like Warcraft, right? But without a computer? Why don't you put it on a computer, or something?&quot; I looked at the entire concept and said &quot;Huh?&quot;. The whole advantage D&amp;D has is face-to-face interaction with your real cheeto-gobbling, Mountain Dew swilling, best buds. The advantage MMORPGs have is not having to wait for people to show up -- and the computer knowing all the rules. To have a program which combines the &quot;Sitting alone in the dark&quot; aspect of MMORPGs with the &quot;Flipping to look up the rules&quot; aspect of tabletop is to go after a very small niche market indeed. The resources dedicated to it could have been better used on the tabletop game, or getting the GSL out on time. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Dragon/Dungeon online are excellent and worth paying for. Compendium is of minimal use to me because there's no wireless where we game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> Character creator I'm waiting on, but it's still of small use to me as a player because, hey, I make up one character every couple of months, if that. (I'd like something which had all the Monster/NPC rules for use as a DM.) Haven't tried any of the other tools. Some of WOTC's ideas for cash flow -- BUYING miniatures to use with game table? And having the cost based on the &quot;Size&quot; of the mini, as if a dragon cost more pixels to store than a kobold -- are just wacky. (And what happened to each book having a code which could be used to unlock online content and get free watermarked PDFs?)My main worry is that WOTC projected a lot of revenue from Gleemax and DDI, revenue which will never be realized, and this will anger the gods at Hasbro, who will wonder why they've still got this division now that the Pokemon fad is over...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4617027, member: 1054"] Oh, I'm not mad. I think 4e is perfectly playable without it. I think it was a silly idea from the start, it reeked of someone from Hasbro saying "This Dungeons whatsis, it's like Warcraft, right? But without a computer? Why don't you put it on a computer, or something?" I looked at the entire concept and said "Huh?". The whole advantage D&D has is face-to-face interaction with your real cheeto-gobbling, Mountain Dew swilling, best buds. The advantage MMORPGs have is not having to wait for people to show up -- and the computer knowing all the rules. To have a program which combines the "Sitting alone in the dark" aspect of MMORPGs with the "Flipping to look up the rules" aspect of tabletop is to go after a very small niche market indeed. The resources dedicated to it could have been better used on the tabletop game, or getting the GSL out on time. :) Dragon/Dungeon online are excellent and worth paying for. Compendium is of minimal use to me because there's no wireless where we game. :( Character creator I'm waiting on, but it's still of small use to me as a player because, hey, I make up one character every couple of months, if that. (I'd like something which had all the Monster/NPC rules for use as a DM.) Haven't tried any of the other tools. Some of WOTC's ideas for cash flow -- BUYING miniatures to use with game table? And having the cost based on the "Size" of the mini, as if a dragon cost more pixels to store than a kobold -- are just wacky. (And what happened to each book having a code which could be used to unlock online content and get free watermarked PDFs?) My main worry is that WOTC projected a lot of revenue from Gleemax and DDI, revenue which will never be realized, and this will anger the gods at Hasbro, who will wonder why they've still got this division now that the Pokemon fad is over... [/QUOTE]

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