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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Smeelbo" data-source="post: 4691439" data-attributes="member: 81898">I apologize for misreading you.As I read it, he is not claiming that terrain doesn't matter, but that moving and becoming hidden with Fleeting Ghost only requires ordinary cover or concealment, not superior or total. He is not arguing that, absent cover or concealment, Fleeting Ghost may be used to become hidden, then on one's next action, attack, remaining hidden until the attack is resolved. Ordinary cover and concealment are often unavailable for such attacks, but they are far more common than superior cover or total concealment. The referee still has complete control over available terrain. I entertain the notion that MyISPHatesENWorld may well be correct. It would mean that Stealth would be applicable in combat much more often for Rogues than other classes. Considering how uncommon superior cover or total concealment appear to be, his interpretation of Fleeting Ghost may well be intended.  I have DMed with terrain that greatly favors Stealth, and it did not appear overpowering. It takes time to get where one can hide, time to get back into battle--costly time.  Certainly, the Stealth errata was an opportunity to clarify the wording of Fleeting Ghost, but it was left as is, even though a great deal of thought went into the errata, and other abilities were clarified. All I want is a nice clear set of Stealth rules, including all the powers that impact Stealth, so I can reasonably assess whether I can sneak up on my foes or not, and not simply rely on DM fiat. 4E is the first edition of D&D that offers such rules, and after 35 years, that end is in sight. Smeelbo</blockquote>

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