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<blockquote data-quote="Black Knight Irios" data-source="post: 5219553" data-attributes="member: 8853">If a player doesn't say he is actively looking for something use the passive score. If a player says, &quot;I want to examine x&quot; then let him roll.Generally: all - on both sides.EDIT:DMG1 suggests to only roll stealth checks in a group for the monster/char with the lowest stealth modifier to save time. If monsters/chars from the same group are more than 10 squares away from each other they can roll a seperate stealth check, like when 1 player scouts ahead/etc.If both groups use stealth both roll stealth. Then check those results against the passive perception scores of the other party. If one notices the other they can get a surprise round on the unaware party (if they want to start combat).If an unstealthed party notices other enemies unaware, for whatever reasons, of their presence they could use stealth to hide if they fulfill the requirements for using stealth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Black Knight Irios, post: 5219553, member: 8853"] If a player doesn't say he is actively looking for something use the passive score. If a player says, "I want to examine x" then let him roll. Generally: all - on both sides. EDIT: DMG1 suggests to only roll stealth checks in a group for the monster/char with the lowest stealth modifier to save time. If monsters/chars from the same group are more than 10 squares away from each other they can roll a seperate stealth check, like when 1 player scouts ahead/etc. If both groups use stealth both roll stealth. Then check those results against the passive perception scores of the other party. If one notices the other they can get a surprise round on the unaware party (if they want to start combat). If an unstealthed party notices other enemies unaware, for whatever reasons, of their presence they could use stealth to hide if they fulfill the requirements for using stealth. [/QUOTE]

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