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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Skyscraper" data-source="post: 5596433" data-attributes="member: 48518">Thanks for the replies.Isn't "the check is usually at the end of a move action" meant that hiding requires a move action? The rest says "BUT it can be ...." so to me the rule is: it's at the end of a move action, but may also be at the end of another action that involves moving. Contrary to you, I see moving as an option, but the move action as the main criterion.Deft strike works, of course.As for dropping prone and standing up, I'd rather just rule that the move action is spent hiding, without moving away from the square, which may be interpreted as ducking behind the wall, etc...I'm not trying to punish anyone here. I'm really not in the DM vs player mentality. I thrive in a cooperative storytelling mode and that's what I work to achieve during battle scenes. I don't mind if my monsters die and I have no problem challenging the players sufficiently. Well, glad this is settled <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Arbitrary penalties and bonuses are frequent in my games. Someone trying to hide will often benefit from a bonus or suffer a penalty. Is he far from the viewer? Is there noise in the room? Is the viewer distracted? Or is the rogue hiding at the same place as he was the last round? I don't see this as penalizing the rogue, I see this as applying a modifier depending on how well the rogue is planning things out. I usually give bonuses for any plan that is not unreasonable, i.e. my threshold is pretty low and the idea is to encourage the players to come up with inventive ways of interacting with the environment. I think the players like this way of DMing, it gives them a sense that their decisions are important tactically, in addition to what the powers do.Don't you apply positive or negative modifiers to stealth or other skill checks? (Or other rolls generally? Fighting from high ground, etc...) I play hide-and-seak with my two young boys, and the youngest (3 years old) likes to go back to hiding at the same place all the time. Can't say that he's really hard to find when he does so. Assuming your accept circumstantial modifiers for stealth checks in your game, don't you think that hiding at the same place would warrant a penalty?This being said, I like your thought about the enemy not even knowing where the attack comes from, i.e. the rogue not really revealing himself, if he hides immediately after the attack. That's a cool cinematic for a battle.</blockquote>

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