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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paul Strack" data-source="post: 4397549" data-attributes="member: 71340">Some Comments#4: Several of the examples of "opposed checks" on PH25 involved a rolled value (an attack) against a fixed value (Reflex Defense). I think you can safely argue that the "opposed check" between Stealth and Perception on PH188 is an active Stealth check against a passive Perception check. This is consistent with the Perception rules on PH186 and under TWYCS, which require standard or minor actions to make a Perception roll.That lets you eliminate #4 and always use #3. I am of the opinion that active checks should only be used when it is your turn. In other words, active Perception checks to spot someone in TWYCS should be opposed by passive Stealth. This is important, because Free Actions can only be taken on your own turn.#5: I agree with this, provided that you mean it only applies to your current action or actions you have already taken this turn, but not to future actions. Otherwise it is too hard to adjudicate.#6: If you are going by RAW, Free Actions can only be taken on your own turn, so an alert enemy can only share your location and break Stealth when it gets to be his turn.#8: This is big stretch if you are going by RAW. The Success block under Stealth states "If you later attack or shout, you are no longer hidden." That clearly indicates that hidden is a lasting condition.#9: Same compliant as #8.I wholeheartedly agree that only Total Concealment or Superior Cover let you use TWYCS, though. That's clear from the "Superior Cover or Total Concealment" block on PH188, and eliminates the biggest problem most people seem to have with Stealth, namely Stealth = Invisibility. Personally, I am OK with "Stealth + TC/SC" = Invisibility.</blockquote>

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