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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 4401559" data-attributes="member: 71699">The check in Stealth says 'opposed'. I asked if opposed checks are always rolled. The answer was yes. One might be thinking 'opposed checks are always rolled by both parties, when they are both active'. One ends up arguing that some significant wording was omitted by mistake from the Opposed Checks block. One would then also need to be imagining that in the example in the Opposed Checks block, the hider has made their check in their turn, and now the perceiver will look for them in the seeker's turn. Both are active, but it was another unfortunate omission not to say so. And then we must consider that Stealth predominantely does not work that way. The opposed check happens as part of the action of the player doing the hiding and is resolved before the other player gets a turn. We might say 'oh ho, that makes it passive!'... so now we are arguing that another unfortunate error has been made. Instead of choosing an example that will frequently arise in play, the example chosen for the Opposed Checks block was by chance a very marginal case. Significant wording missed out, on top of an unfortunate omission, on top of a corner case example where by all rights a common case should have be cited, feels stretched. Without wording in that direction in the Stealth rules block there isn't enough substance here to make a case that 'Opposed Stealth checks are active vs passive'. A simpler reading is more likely to be the right one. 'Stealth checks are opposed. Unless you are not looking out for danger, both sides roll.' -vk</blockquote>

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