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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7039009" data-attributes="member: 28301">A skilled character will always believe he is being stealthy, so the more skilled you are the less likely you know you are being spotted.  Very smart players will make a stealth check and then a perception check to perceive if they are detected by someone else.   They won't wait to see if the guard reacts, they will try to perceive if they are noticed.  TBH I am the only player I know of that does this, but my kids do it now after I explained it to them.The same skilled PC could also make a stealth or perception check to see how stealthy a none stealth Skilled PC is doing on his stealth check I.e "dude you stand out like you had fairie fire cast on you."PC unskilled in stealth really wouldn't know if they were being stealthy until they failed.  A PC with a high passive perception might be aware at how bad his attempt is.Using the above a stealthy PC can make his stealth check and then use a perception check to gauge how he is doing, which will allow him to keep the same stealth check and continue or maybe role again if he perceives something is tipping him off.  Likewise, a smart enemy might notice the PC but not try to give it away to lure the PC in, the perception check might pick that up.</blockquote>