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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 9641103" data-attributes="member: 9789">I feel like one of the reasons this is so hard is because stealth can encompass two different ways to see the same situation that are both easy to visualize: sneaking up on someone during combat where you would remain hidden (I hid behind the boulder and now I'm sneaking out from behind it toward the goblin who doesn't know where I am to hit him over the head with a sap), and sneaking during combat where you would not remain hidden (I hid behind a boulder and then I stepped out from behind the boulder and now everyone sees me). That is literally the same action! But each interpretation lends itself toward one version of sneak, and a different way to write the rules.The first one neatly answers Mistwell's question as yes, and the second one neatly answers it as no. But importantly: neither is invalid, and neither has to be the exclusive interpretation! There will always be situations where either one makes more sense. Hence: 50,000 wordcount threads.So in the end... it depends on the situation, hence the &quot;cover all&quot; of &quot;it depends on the DM,&quot; and why no one is wrong and these threads will never end with one true answer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 9641103, member: 9789"] I feel like [I]one[/I] of the reasons this is so hard is because stealth can encompass two different ways to see the same situation that are both easy to visualize: sneaking up on someone during combat where you would remain hidden (I hid behind the boulder and now I'm sneaking out from behind it toward the goblin who doesn't know where I am to hit him over the head with a sap), and sneaking during combat where you would not remain hidden (I hid behind a boulder and then I stepped out from behind the boulder and now everyone sees me). That is literally the same action! But each interpretation lends itself toward one version of sneak, and a different way to write the rules. The first one neatly answers Mistwell's question as yes, and the second one neatly answers it as no. But importantly: neither is invalid, and neither has to be the exclusive interpretation! There will always be situations where either one makes more sense. Hence: 50,000 wordcount threads. So in the end... it depends on the situation, hence the "cover all" of "it depends on the DM," and why no one is wrong and these threads will never end with one true answer. [/QUOTE]

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