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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Simplicity" data-source="post: 4301625" data-attributes="member: 1496">When someone stealthily does something, there is an opposed perception roll.  You may actively take a *standard* action to make another check. You can stealthily perform a minor action, yes.  But there isn't a ton of point in stealthily dropping a longbow.  Stealth ISN'T a state of being.  You can perform actions "stealthily".  And as long as you do so successfully, you are considered "in hiding".  But take any actions you perform without a stealth check...  And you're not in hiding anymore.  So, if you want to draw PCs into tunnels, those monsters need to MOVE stealthily.  Otherwise, the PCs will simply walk to where they last got attacked and see them.Example 1:Monster begins turn in cover.  Monster moves to more cover stealthily.Monster is now in hiding.  Monster attacks with combat advantage.  Monster is now no longer hiding.  A-OK.Example 2:Monster moves to cover.  Monster moves stealthily to more cover.Monster is now in hiding.  Sounds good.Example 3:Monster attacks.  Monster moves to cover.  Monster stealthily scratches his nose and goes into hiding!  PCs move right next to his square, he loses cover, and the PCs kill him.  Okay?  Don't know.  Sounds pointless.Example 4:Monster moves to cover from visible area.  Monster stealthily pulls his crossbow out.  Monster in hiding?  Monster attacks with combat advantage?  I think this one is questionable.  Unfortunately, I don't have the rules to back it up.It really *feels* like stealth should require a move action to go into hiding.  But I can't back that up with anything.</blockquote>

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