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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eryndur" data-source="post: 4268352" data-attributes="member: 2910">I'm still a bit confused. Consider this brief scenario, based on Harr's interpretation, and tell me if I'm understanding things correctly:Enemies abound within the room, so at least one has line of sight to the rogue at all times. The rogue slips behind a 2x1 chunk of wall as a move action. He now has cover from his intended target, but at this stage, his target knows where he is, correct? By my understanding, this move into cover cannot be done stealthily during combat, because you cannot even attempt stealth unless you have already achieved cover/concealment. The rogue wants to gain combat advantage through stealth, so he does the following:- As a second move action, he moves stealthily behind cover to the next square over. With a successful Stealth check at the end of the move, his target is now unaware of his location, and thus grants combat advantage to the rogue. That's two moves, so assuming he doesn't use an action point, his turn is basically over.Next round, the rogue wants to sneak attack the target he has combat advantage against. Here's where I get confused. Let's say the rogue has to step out from behind cover in order to get line of sight to his target so he can throw his dagger. The rules say that if an enemy has unobstructed line of sight to you, then they are aware of you, with no Perception check needed. So, if the rogue -- though currently being successfully stealthy behind cover -- steps out of cover, his intended target sees him immediately, and combat advantage is lost before the rogue attacks. Assuming this is correct, how does the rogue successfully sneak attack his target using stealth? For that matter, how does the rogue sneak attack anybody using stealth, as the rules state that if even if you've successfully stealthed, a later attack negates this success?What am I missing here?</blockquote>

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