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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5347729" data-attributes="member: 2067">Stealth rules don't apply unless the Ranger was using Stealth to become hidden.If the ranger was not using stealth, the blind creature knows which square he's in, without having to make any sort of check or anything. He just takes a penalty on his attack rolls. Not really. If the adventurer detects the bandit, they detect the bandit enough to attack their square. If the adventure does not detect the bandit, the adventurer is unaware of the square its in.If you want to achieve this effect (which is cool), you might want to let the adventurer hear the bandit (and know what square he's in), and THEN have the bandit become hidden. That way, the adventurer knew there was a bandit -- but they're not sure where it went. You can then have the bandit (or a different bandit) un-stealth, let the adventurers know, and then re-stealth. You could also rule that if the adventurer's passive perception beats the Stealth roll, they're aware of something out there, but only an active Perception roll (taking an action) can pinpoint the square. It's a house rule, but I think it's a fairly good one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5347729, member: 2067"] Stealth rules don't apply unless the Ranger was using Stealth to become hidden. If the ranger was not using stealth, the blind creature knows which square he's in, without having to make any sort of check or anything. He just takes a penalty on his attack rolls. Not really. If the adventurer detects the bandit, they detect the bandit enough to attack their square. If the adventure does not detect the bandit, the adventurer is unaware of the square its in. If you want to achieve this effect (which is cool), you might want to let the adventurer hear the bandit (and know what square he's in), and THEN have the bandit become hidden. That way, the adventurer knew there was a bandit -- but they're not sure where it went. You can then have the bandit (or a different bandit) un-stealth, let the adventurers know, and then re-stealth. You could also rule that if the adventurer's passive perception beats the Stealth roll, they're aware of something out there, but only an active Perception roll (taking an action) can pinpoint the square. It's a house rule, but I think it's a fairly good one. [/QUOTE]

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