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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 4390219" data-attributes="member: 71699">Forked Thread: Stealth - Streamlined PEACHForked from: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showpost.php?postid=4389951" target="_blank">Stealth - Streamlined PEACH </a>to critique MarkB's RAI in some detail.  Until Mearls clarifies his remark about information sharing, no one can pick exactly what information he meant was sharable. If you assume exact location can't be shared, DM must track separate awareness conditions for each enemy. Unless you are running a mission where stealth is the focus (I do sometimes), ruling that all enemies in the encounter share the same information is nearly all of the time as fair to the hider as tracking separately, but plays a lot faster. If exact information can be shared, highest Perception is the guy to share it, so don't bother rolling against anyone else.  I don't understand this ruling. 5-squares of concealment breaks sight. Any number of squares of cover will leave some unblocked LOS, unless in conjunction they are really superior cover. The way I'm handling it is you'd check to hide first, then move hidden through the cover/concealment. You might need to use a standard to move into cover/concealment first, if you don't have it already. That seems cleaner.  This is very close to how I have it in Stealth - the low-down UPDATE. The reason I moved to just using Displacement is that once you try as a DM to pick squares fairly, you most often end up using some random method. Let's say you pick two squares and roll d6 50/50. First, that's probably too good a protection for a skill to give in combat (At-Will 50% resist all ranged/melee attacks, and -5 to hit if you don't resist) and second it's burdensome to keep picking squares, making up odds, and throwing dice. Displacement is a fair way to emulate all that fuss, but faster, cleaner, and more consistent. Note that if you aren't using the 10 points over rule from TWYCS, you've no basis to pluck that -5 out of them. That -5 is tied to the same thing the 10 points over rule is!  By RAW stealth doesn't end except on certain actions, but more importantly why do all that rolling if nothing is happening to end stealth? I just go with the first roll and move on, until something changes.  Quite nice ruling, and one I am moving to. It probably needs to be qualified, since some powers explicitly don't reveal your position, and others don't read like they should. I'm about to read through the list and try to put some order to it, but for now I plucked the Attack, Immediate, and Opportunity, keywords out.  This is a just and fair minded rule, but a pain in the bottom to DM. I'm tired of hiders monopolising the attention and forcing everyone else to strain their RP accomodating them. Economy of attention!  To be honest, they're fair-minded rules. I believe in play they making hiding a bit more effort to DM than I'd like, and unless you bias your square picking they'll make hiding imba in terms of the defence offered. -vk</blockquote>

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