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<blockquote data-quote="MarkB" data-source="post: 4395952" data-attributes="member: 40176">How do you interpret &quot;Part of the action you are attempting to perform stealthily&quot;, then? To me, it seems to indicate that the type of action you perform modifies the form of stealth that is granted. However, it's ambiguous enough that I won't cling to that interpretation.&nbsp;Ah, I see why you think my ruling reduces the utility of this power. You've interpreted it as doing something it doesn't do at all.The power says nothing about getting around the normal rules for stealth. All it does is eliminate the movement penalty for your check.I guess you mean Secret Stride here. Yes, it does the same thing - at 11th level or above. Rogues get to do it at 2nd level. If you take the feat later, you can retrain the power.&nbsp;i never claimed you could. With a normal move with Stealth check, any time you break out of cover/concealment you are visible. If you re-enter cover/concealment by the end of your move, you can make your Stealth check to become hidden at that point.&nbsp;Well, you've misinterpreted FG, so that probably isn't helping. And the special thing that Shadow Stride does is let you move from cover to cover through open terrain, and remain hidden during that action, not just at the start and end of it.&nbsp;No, the power isn't giving you the check - the check is what the rules would normally give you as part of your move action. What the power does is let the whole of your move be hidden, even when moving in clear view.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MarkB, post: 4395952, member: 40176"] How do you interpret "Part of the action you are attempting to perform stealthily", then? To me, it seems to indicate that the type of action you perform modifies the form of stealth that is granted. However, it's ambiguous enough that I won't cling to that interpretation. Ah, I see why you think my ruling reduces the utility of this power. You've interpreted it as doing something it doesn't do at all. The power says nothing about getting around the normal rules for stealth. All it does is eliminate the movement penalty for your check. I guess you mean Secret Stride here. Yes, it does the same thing - at 11th level or above. Rogues get to do it at 2nd level. If you take the feat later, you can retrain the power. i never claimed you could. With a normal move with Stealth check, any time you break out of cover/concealment you are visible. If you re-enter cover/concealment by the end of your move, you can make your Stealth check to become hidden at that point. Well, you've misinterpreted FG, so that probably isn't helping. And the special thing that Shadow Stride does is let you move from cover to cover through open terrain, and remain hidden [i]during[/i] that action, not just at the start and end of it. No, the power isn't giving you the check - the check is what the rules would normally give you as part of your move action. What the power does is let the whole of your move be hidden, even when moving in clear view. [/QUOTE]

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