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<blockquote data-quote="the_redbeard" data-source="post: 4395983" data-attributes="member: 22644">But you didn't say it - and in fact created a situation that your solution doesn't solve.&nbsp; Going by RAW that stealthing is PART of whatever action is to be performed stealthily is more flexible in dealing with situations, especially since it does NOT rule out taking a minor action to stealth when the situation requires.NOTE: action to be performed stealthily.&nbsp; MarkB is correct, every usage of stealth does not necessarily mean that you are hidden.&nbsp; It is perfect sense that using stealth to drop an object does not hide you. This small little application of common sense is necessary since RAW obviously can't handle all situations.&nbsp; I'm sure this provokes convulsions, but I can't see why: you're perfectly happy inventing house rules out of whole cloth (minor actions and displacement) and advocating them to everyone.Review of 188:Stealth: Part of whatever action you are trying toperform stealthily.Success: You avoid notice, unheard and hidden fromview.So you want to do something without being heard?&nbsp; What other skill would it be than stealth?Stealth and thievery is different, because thievery is more specialized.&nbsp; If you can use thievery, you should because it does not require concealment and has a set DC.&nbsp; Stealth is a more general skill and is an opposed check.How is this different from Thievery?Stealth requires cover and concealment (or a distraction), and thievery doesn't.&nbsp; If you're in cover and concealment and want to drop an item (say some caltrops, or something you don't want to be caught with etc.) and want to drop the item without making a noise - use stealth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the_redbeard, post: 4395983, member: 22644"] But you didn't say it - and in fact created a situation that your solution doesn't solve. Going by RAW that stealthing is PART of whatever action is to be performed stealthily is more flexible in dealing with situations, especially since it does NOT rule out taking a minor action to stealth when the situation requires. NOTE: action to be performed stealthily. MarkB is correct, every usage of stealth does not necessarily mean that you are hidden. It is perfect sense that using stealth to drop an object does not hide you. This small little application of common sense is necessary since RAW obviously can't handle all situations. I'm sure this provokes convulsions, but I can't see why: you're perfectly happy inventing house rules out of whole cloth (minor actions and displacement) and advocating them to everyone. Review of 188: Stealth: Part of whatever action you are trying to perform stealthily. Success: You avoid notice, unheard and hidden from view. So you want to do something without being heard? What other skill would it be than stealth? Stealth and thievery is different, because thievery is more specialized. If you can use thievery, you should because it does not require concealment and has a set DC. Stealth is a more general skill and is an opposed check. How is this different from Thievery? Stealth requires cover and concealment (or a distraction), and thievery doesn't. If you're in cover and concealment and want to drop an item (say some caltrops, or something you don't want to be caught with etc.) and want to drop the item without making a noise - use stealth. [/QUOTE]

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