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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LowSpine" data-source="post: 4399601" data-attributes="member: 60239">I think the whole trouble with the stealth skill is it is treated like an attack versus a perception defence. It would work better if a PC using stealth just turned it on. Then they would have a Stealth Defence score - not neccessarily rolled - like a Passive Stealth. This defence may be dropped on purpose or by accident due to actions, but in order to detect the stealther the stealthee should attack the stealther with his Perception. It could work both ways, however, with Perception still being a defence versus a stelath attack. Perhaps it could be considered a Stealth Attack versus a Perception Defence, for example, when a rogue is making stealth attack. Another way - a Passive Stealth, that can be turned on like a switch. This works against Passive Perception. If the Passive Stealth is better than Passive Perception it just works and the PC is hidden and silent without any bother. If the Perciever makes a conscious check they roll their Perception check and the Stealther rolls their Stealth check against it. Of course certain actions may drop the stealth such as an attack or jumping up and down waving your hands about and shouting. The Passive Stealth may be altered (or force an active roll) when doing such things as walking over gravel or opening a really creaky gate.</blockquote>