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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6794294" data-attributes="member: 6801315">Incorrect...&nbsp; You remain hidden until you are seen clearly by an observer.&nbsp; What constitutes being &quot;unclearly seen&quot; seems to be mainly left up to the DM to decide.&nbsp; If you're seen clearly, you lose hidden.&nbsp; Total obscurement (which isn't actually something in 5e, it's either total cover or complete darkness) is not a requirement to become and remain hidden in 5e post errata.&nbsp; Just because you can't see something does not mean you can't attack it as well, you simply have disadvantage.&nbsp; Being hidden however does mean that a creature does not know where you are and must guess your location on top of attacking with disadvantage.That same errata also changed how obscurement works.&nbsp; If you are in complete darkness, no one can see you but you can see everything not also in complete darkness.&nbsp; You do not have any penalty for looking from complete darkness to a zone which is not in complete darkness.&nbsp; The conundrum pre errata about darkness not allowing you to see a campfire some distance away because the rules state you were considered blinded is no longer within the rules.&nbsp; It was fixed with errata.&nbsp; If you look into darkness, you are blinded.&nbsp; If you look out from darkness, you are fine.I'm guessing you might be confusing editions or something?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6794294, member: 6801315"] Incorrect... You remain hidden until you are seen clearly by an observer. What constitutes being "unclearly seen" seems to be mainly left up to the DM to decide. If you're seen clearly, you lose hidden. Total obscurement (which isn't actually something in 5e, it's either total cover or complete darkness) is not a requirement to become and remain hidden in 5e post errata. Just because you can't see something does not mean you can't attack it as well, you simply have disadvantage. Being hidden however does mean that a creature does not know where you are and must guess your location on top of attacking with disadvantage. That same errata also changed how obscurement works. If you are in complete darkness, no one can see you but you can see everything not also in complete darkness. You do not have any penalty for looking from complete darkness to a zone which is not in complete darkness. The conundrum pre errata about darkness not allowing you to see a campfire some distance away because the rules state you were considered blinded is no longer within the rules. It was fixed with errata. If you look into darkness, you are blinded. If you look out from darkness, you are fine. I'm guessing you might be confusing editions or something? [/QUOTE]

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