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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6794341" data-attributes="member: 6801315">The errata fundamentally changed how hiding works in terms of requirements and changed how the core rules functioned in terms of being considered blinded when standing in complete darkness.  This is beyond simple clarifications....No one is saying you would get to deal sneak attack while having both advantage and disadvantage.   Not sure why you're bringing this up in general.Fog is not darkness.  You're shifting the goal posts.  Though both might give the same mechanical effect, concealment, they are fundamentally different things and would probably be defined differently in game.  As in the fog would prevent or cause difficulties for people to both see into and out of it.  This is a bad comparison to bring up.When it comes to cover, when determining modifiers for attacks you would look at the target's cover and concealment if any and not your own.  Your cover or concealment status does not impact the target of the attack unless that cover and/or concealment can also be applied to the target.  2 people standing in complete darkness have advantage because they can't see each other but also have disadvantage because they can't see each other.  2 people standing on either side of a wall both have total cover from each other.However, the guy ducking behind a rock to make himself "unclearly seen" by someone else standing in the open should not have to worry about his target having cover or concealment against his attacks.  The target has no cover or concealment.  It is standing out in the open.  The same for standing in complete darkness and attacking someone in the open.  You can't be seen so you have advantage.  They can't see you, so they have disadvantage on their attack. I get the feeling that you're not applying cover and concealment properly and are under the impression that the moment these things come along they must be applied both ways.  This isn't the case at all.</blockquote>

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