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<blockquote data-quote="bardolph" data-source="post: 4383099" data-attributes="member: 2304"><p>The "-10 rule" from TWYCS makes sense when an invisible creature <em>fails</em> its Stealth check, and one or more observers want to target it. Here's how it would go down:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The invisible creature tries to sneak into a group of enemies undetected.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The invisible creature rolls Stealth, but fails to beat the Passive Perception of one of the creatures. All creatures are now alerted that there is someone in their midst. The observer whose Passive Perception was high enough to beat the Stealth check may also know the direction to the invisible creature.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">One of the (now alerted) creatures rolls Perception as a minor action, and beats the Stealth check of the invisible creature, but not by ten or more.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">This creature now knows the direction of the invisible creature, and can either guess a square and attack with a ranged attack, or move directly towards the creature, and if it bumps into the invisible creature (by having its movement obstructed), it can make a melee attack into the blocked square at -5 attack due to Total Concealment. As long as the invisible creature is equal to or less than the observer's move in squares distant, the observer should be able to locate the invisible creature in this fashion.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Another of the observers rolls Perception as a minor action, and beats the Stealth check of the invisible creature by 10 or more points. This observer can attack freely with range or melee, because he knows exactly which square the invisible creature is in. The observer is still at -5 to hit, however, due to Total Concealment.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bardolph, post: 4383099, member: 2304"] The "-10 rule" from TWYCS makes sense when an invisible creature [i]fails[/i] its Stealth check, and one or more observers want to target it. Here's how it would go down: [list=1] [*]The invisible creature tries to sneak into a group of enemies undetected. [*]The invisible creature rolls Stealth, but fails to beat the Passive Perception of one of the creatures. All creatures are now alerted that there is someone in their midst. The observer whose Passive Perception was high enough to beat the Stealth check may also know the direction to the invisible creature. [*]One of the (now alerted) creatures rolls Perception as a minor action, and beats the Stealth check of the invisible creature, but not by ten or more. [*]This creature now knows the direction of the invisible creature, and can either guess a square and attack with a ranged attack, or move directly towards the creature, and if it bumps into the invisible creature (by having its movement obstructed), it can make a melee attack into the blocked square at -5 attack due to Total Concealment. As long as the invisible creature is equal to or less than the observer's move in squares distant, the observer should be able to locate the invisible creature in this fashion. [*]Another of the observers rolls Perception as a minor action, and beats the Stealth check of the invisible creature by 10 or more points. This observer can attack freely with range or melee, because he knows exactly which square the invisible creature is in. The observer is still at -5 to hit, however, due to Total Concealment. [/list] [/QUOTE]
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