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<blockquote data-quote="TDarien" data-source="post: 6648706">There's nothing in the rules that says if your position is known you can't attempt to hide again.&nbsp; As long as I meet the requirements of not being able to be seen clearly (or whatever requirements halflings and wood elves have) I can attempt to hide again.&nbsp; At that point, you can't tell I'm still there.&nbsp; The fact that I have nowhere to go isn't really relevant.&nbsp; As I said before, there may not be much benefit to me hiding, because as soon as I move I reveal myself again, that doesn't change the fact that I was hidden.Logic is exactly what it is.&nbsp; You can't perceive my location with your senses so you deduce I'm still there because that's where you saw me last.&nbsp;&nbsp; *blink**blink* *blink*This is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous arguments I've ever heard in my entire life. I actually laughed out loud at its lunacy. No, you can't perceive my location with your memory. It's not a sense.&nbsp; Besides, memory is Intelligence, not Wisdom (PHB, pg 177 &quot;An Intelligence check comes into play when you need to draw on logic, education, memory, or deductive reasoning.&quot;)Sure there is, because the rules specifically say there is.&nbsp; The fact that she has nowhere to go is completely irrelevant to her ability to hide.&nbsp; Hiding and movement are completely separate in this edition.&nbsp; Hiding is an action in 5e, that's never been the case before, it's always been tied to movement.&nbsp; That's not the case anymore.&nbsp; &nbsp;There's nothing in the rules that supports this.&nbsp; There is one requirement to be able to attempt to hide, that your target can't see you clearly, and in the halfling's case, the very specific &quot;You can attempt to hide even when you are obscured only by a creature that is at least one size larger than you.&quot;&nbsp; There's nothing in the rules that supersedes that, nor is there anything that having your position known prevents you from attempting to hide.&nbsp; Being discovered makes you lose the benefits of being hidden, but that is, in no way, the same thing as not being allowed to hide if your position is known.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TDarien, post: 6648706"] There's nothing in the rules that says if your position is known you can't attempt to hide again. As long as I meet the requirements of not being able to be seen clearly (or whatever requirements halflings and wood elves have) I can attempt to hide again. At that point, you can't tell I'm still there. The fact that I have nowhere to go isn't really relevant. As I said before, there may not be much benefit to me hiding, because as soon as I move I reveal myself again, that doesn't change the fact that I [I]was[/I] hidden. Logic is [I]exactly[/I] what it is. You can't perceive my location with your senses so you [I]deduce[/I] I'm still there because that's where you saw me last. *blink* *blink* *blink* This is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous arguments I've ever heard in my entire life. I actually laughed out loud at its lunacy. No, you can't perceive my location with your memory. It's not a sense. Besides, memory is Intelligence, not Wisdom (PHB, pg 177 "An Intelligence check comes into play when you need to draw on logic, education, [B]memory[/B], or deductive reasoning.") Sure there is, because the rules [I]specifically[/I] say there is. The fact that she has nowhere to go is [I]completely irrelevant[/I] to her ability to hide. Hiding and movement are completely separate in this edition. Hiding is an action in 5e, that's never been the case before, it's always been tied to movement. That's not the case anymore. There's nothing in the rules that supports this. There is one requirement to be able to attempt to hide, that your target can't see you clearly, and in the halfling's case, the [I]very[/I] specific "You can attempt to hide even when you are obscured only by a creature that is at least one size larger than you." There's nothing in the rules that supersedes that, nor is there anything that having your position known prevents you from attempting to hide. Being discovered makes you lose the benefits of being hidden, but that is, [I]in no way[/I], the same thing as not being allowed to hide if your position is known. [/QUOTE]

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