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<blockquote data-quote="TDarien" data-source="post: 6649624">It most certainly is deductive reasoning.&nbsp; Your using your memory to fill in the gaps in your perception.&nbsp; You saw me go behind that pillar, there's nowhere else I can go without you seeing me, therefore, I must sill be there.&nbsp; You can call it whatever you want, but it absolutely is logic and deductive reasoning.&nbsp; You're skipping that step in the process. While that happens automatically for you, a less intelligent creature might not reach the same conclusion.Your memory has nothing do do with your perception.&nbsp; At all. See here's the thing though.&nbsp; The lack of clear benefit doesn't necessarily mean there isn't any benefit.&nbsp; There could be possibilities.&nbsp; Like I mentioned earlier.&nbsp; Say I moved behind a pillar.&nbsp; There's no where for me to go, so I must still be there, according to you you still know my location. However, come around the pillar guess what, I'm not there!&nbsp; How did that happen?What you didn't know is there was a secret door built into that pillar, and I ducked through it while I was obscured from your view.&nbsp; However, In order to do this undetected I must take the hide action.&nbsp; If I didn't, you would know I moved, because your other senses gave you clues.Now, suppose you knew about the secret door and I did the same thing.&nbsp; I move behind the pillar and hide.&nbsp; Now, did I go through the secret door or not?&nbsp; You have no way of knowing, because your senses can't detect me.&nbsp;&nbsp; Situations like this is why it must be possible to hide, even if there is no clear way to move from the hiding spot.&nbsp; The hiding is not tied to the movement at all, as hiding is an action.EDIT:&nbsp; Besides there's a better reason why the halfling should be able to hide behind a creature, even if she's observed going there.&nbsp; It's <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing cool. &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Where the heck did she go? SHE WAS JUST THERE!!&quot;&nbsp; *gets pelted with a sling* &quot;OW!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TDarien, post: 6649624"] It most certainly is deductive reasoning. Your using your memory to fill in the gaps in your perception. You saw me go behind that pillar, there's nowhere else I can go without you seeing me, therefore, I must sill be there. You can call it whatever you want, but it [I]absolutely[/I] is logic and deductive reasoning. You're skipping that step in the process. While that happens automatically for you, a less intelligent creature might not reach the same conclusion. Your memory has [I]nothing[/I] do do with your perception. At all. See here's the thing though. The lack of clear benefit doesn't necessarily mean there isn't [I]any[/I] benefit. There could be possibilities. Like I mentioned earlier. Say I moved behind a pillar. There's no where for me to go, so I must still be there, according to you you still know my location. However, come around the pillar guess what, I'm not there! How did that happen? What you didn't know is there was a secret door built into that pillar, and I ducked through it while I was obscured from your view. However, In order to do this undetected I [I]must take the hide action[/I]. If I didn't, you would know I moved, because your other senses gave you clues. Now, suppose you knew about the secret door and I did the same thing. I move behind the pillar and hide. Now, did I go through the secret door or not? You have no way of knowing, because your senses can't detect me. Situations like this is why it [I]must[/I] be possible to hide, even if there is no clear way to move from the hiding spot. The hiding is not tied to the movement at all, as hiding is an action. EDIT: Besides there's a better reason why the halfling should be able to hide behind a creature, even if she's observed going there. [I]It's :):):):)ing cool. [/I] "Where the heck did she go? SHE WAS JUST THERE!!" *gets pelted with a sling* "OW!" [/QUOTE]

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