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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4366537" data-attributes="member: 61231">bardolph:I actually started the "Stealth in Combat" thread (the huge one), so in the interests of not contributing to a monstrocity like that again, I'm hesitant to say anything that sounds like I'm saying "My way is the only right way." When answering this thread (which I think is an interesting thread) I was answering "How would *I* run it?" Here's why *I* run it this way, in the short, short version:Combat Advantage uses Stealth rules to determine if the target is unaware of you.Combat Advantage uses Concealment rules to determine if the target can't see you.(See Combat Advantage in the Combat chapter.) There's a lot more to it than that (read as much of Stealth in Combat as you can stomach), but that's the conclusion I finally reached. Every published adventure I've read so far supports this interpretation (that Stealth only grants Combat Advantage from the target being unaware of your presence). In order for Stealth to grant combat advantage for me, after being spotted, I have to stealthily move to an unexpected location and attack again. Stealthing behind a barrel or tree stump doesn't work in my campaign--they know you're there, they are expecting the attack. EDIT - I didn't answer your question about moving 2 squares, and I couldn't give a flat yes or no.  I'd lean towards no, mainly because you could have a rogue walk into a candlelit 20x20 room with 4 people watching him come in the door, and by stealthing 2 squares right in front of them, would you give him CA?  I wouldn't.  Now if he managed to enter the room without notice?  I'd let him move about the dim room with Stealth.  But as far as making someone unaware of you?  Gonna take something exceptional.</blockquote>

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