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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ristamar" data-source="post: 525979" data-attributes="member: 1207">I'll take my now $25 wireless <a href="http://www.gamespy.com/hardware/june02/wbgcn/" target="_blank">Wavebird</a> any day of the week.  I can pick up a non-wireless controller for about $17 at Wal-Mart, and that's if I go first party.  Third party controllers are even cheaper.By the way, exotic and most don't exactly go together.  The very reason it is exotic is because most people don't use them, save for the diehard enthusiasts.A couple thousand?  I don't know where you shop, but you can get a 32" HDTV for about one thousand dollars these days.*sigh*  It's not a computer, nor is it ever supposed to be a computer.  It's akin to bitching that the PS2 isn't a great DVD player, or that a cell phone has a clunky text-message communication interface.  Wow, shocking, as that is not their primary functions.  Consoles are gaming systems... the keyboard is there for those that prefer a keyboard interface.  I have no idea what floppy disks have to do with this discussion. As for the rest, everything you mentioned still costs money, far more money than a cheap little memory card.Most PC gamers don't buy new systems that often, they use piecemeal upgrades over many months, with the most commonly swapped parts being the CPU, the videocard, RAM, and the motherboard.   The only reason I mention this is because you often have to upgrade multiple parts at once to capitalize on the sum of said parts, otherwise you run into bad bottlenecks in performance.This is completely irrelevant to the current discussion.  I don't care if your computer cooks you breakfast or teaches your dog to fetch and play dead.   We're discussing games.But while we're on the topic, you do realize that the PC gaming industry is, by far, the driving force behind the hardware industry?  The main reason most people have high-end systems is to play games, not to balance their checkbook or type up reports.  You're not going to squeeze much extra performance out of Excel or Internet Explorer with a 3 ghz. processor and 128 meg Radeon 9700 Pro.  In fact, unless you're running 3D Studio Max, a raytracer, or some other ultra-intense program, I'm sure a sub-1 ghz. processor and integrated graphics chip would do fine.Now I'm starting to chuckle.  Even the most diehard PC fanboys I know at least admit to (and loathe) the horrendous trend of PC games shipping with inexcusable bugs which often require multiple patches, and rarely do they fix every issue.And yes, console games do have a few bugs.  Fortunately 99.9% of these bugs are so minor or rare, most people never notice them, and even then, they're generally just quirks that don't effect gameplay in any manner.And hey, how about that, two of the titles you mentioned were released in the last six or seven months, while console gamers have been enjoying myriad classic RPG's for well over a decade.I won't deny that NWN and the BG series are great and unique, and that Morrowind on the PC is superior to the XBOX version.  However, it's common knowledge that the PC RPG industry was virtually defunct until the BG series revitalized the genre.  So yes, it has been playing catch-up, and as I said before, it's doing quite well.I also agree that PC RPG's have an entirely different feel than console RPG's.The rest of what you wrote is a matter of personal taste and is not pertinent to the discussion.I won't argue that a mouse/keyboard combo is more precise.  However, that doesn't mean all console FPS' are clunky and obsolete.  If done properly, they have a different feel, and play perfectly fine.  In fact, Goldeneye and Halo are considered two of the best FPS' of all time, both exclusive to the lowly console.I agree, the mods are very nice, and are strong part of the PC gaming experience.That is somewhat true, though there are some RTS games that work out on consoles, but they tend to be quirky and focus on single player gameplay.Again, personal preference.  Some of the greatest games ever made are platformers and adventure games.  Your dismissal of them does not render them insignificant.I disagree with your statement concerning flight sims, as the level of complexity in any given flight sim is often far greater than almost any available racing game.  You're virtually implying that it's as easy to fly an F-14 as it is to drive an indy car.  Those are two entirely different levels of complexity.Again, irrelevant (if not flat out absurd), a personal preference, and a quirky one at that.You entirely missed the point.  It has to do with large online communities and sporadic LAN parties vs. directly gaming with a small group.  It's playing with a few friends in the same room as opposed to communicating with a mass of faceless strangers.  Both have their own strengths and weaknesses, but that is another discussion.Nice.  You compare an abnormally small PC to perhaps the largest game console of all time, the behemoth XBOX.  And you failed to mention the wires, speakers, powerstrip, keyboard, mouse, and so forth.... Try toting around a PS2, or better yet, a Gamecube, and a few controllers.  It's a highly noticeable difference.Yes, monitors boast a higher resolution.  Everyone knows that.  You'd be surprised what even a simple S-Video cable can do on a decent TV, let alone component video on an HDTV.  Games like Halo and Metroid Prime didn't receive rave reviews in the graphics department because they looked 'ok' on a 'crummy, low resolution TV.'Yes, it probably would look sweet as hell, but you're talking about a lot of cash right there.Wrapping this up...  in the context of your preferences, yes, you love PC's and think consoles are 'teh suXX0r.' It's similar to console fanboys denouncing PC's and other rival consoles.In short, the PC gaming superiority you profess is based largely on your preferences and bias and has little to do with relevant facts.You like PC's, and that is fine.  You think consoles are kids' toys, and hey, that is fine, too.  But your likes and dislikes come absolutely nowhere close to establishing strong evidence that consoles are inferior to PC's (or vice versa).And just for kicks, you may want to glance at <a href="http://gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2002&m=12&nid=13-39.db" target="_blank">this article.</a>Anyway, I am now done with this discussion.</blockquote>

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