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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 3277521" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Never used a save button, but I wouldn't object to one in certain types of campaigns. I'd dislike it in an intrigue game, and I'd dislike it in a story-intensive RP game, because both of those (well, the former is a subset of the latter) are games in which a) PCs have to remember lots of facts and may have to separate PC Knowledge vs. Player Knowledge and b) DMs have to rely on the illusion of free will in combination with certain bottlenecked events that drive the desired plot forward.</p><p></p><p>In the story-heavy RP game, players who accidentally blow up the powerful artifact might reload, accidentally act out of character because they don't remember what their PCs do and don't know this time, take a completely different path, and then end up blowing up the artifact anyway. The third time they do it, they'll realize that the DM has no intention of letting that artifact survive, and they'll feel railroaded even though they <strong>didn't</strong> feel railroaded the first time through.</p><p></p><p>Using "turn back time" crystals for a cheesy but effective way to not worry about accidental TPKs in a tough dungeon hack would be fine with me, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 3277521, member: 5171"] Never used a save button, but I wouldn't object to one in certain types of campaigns. I'd dislike it in an intrigue game, and I'd dislike it in a story-intensive RP game, because both of those (well, the former is a subset of the latter) are games in which a) PCs have to remember lots of facts and may have to separate PC Knowledge vs. Player Knowledge and b) DMs have to rely on the illusion of free will in combination with certain bottlenecked events that drive the desired plot forward. In the story-heavy RP game, players who accidentally blow up the powerful artifact might reload, accidentally act out of character because they don't remember what their PCs do and don't know this time, take a completely different path, and then end up blowing up the artifact anyway. The third time they do it, they'll realize that the DM has no intention of letting that artifact survive, and they'll feel railroaded even though they [b]didn't[/b] feel railroaded the first time through. Using "turn back time" crystals for a cheesy but effective way to not worry about accidental TPKs in a tough dungeon hack would be fine with me, though. [/QUOTE]
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