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<blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 1388980" data-attributes="member: 2238"><p>Thanks for the thoughts BC... </p><p></p><p>I like the 200,000 year old characters, the uber-characters, and the variety that he offers. But I find that even minor characters are getting major character treatment. Granted maybe he has tons of major characters. I am still trying to decide if I like that or not. I tend to pay more attention to characters when what is written about them is proportional to the story. Granted, I have never tried reading a story so long as these. So it could just be what I am used to shining through in my opinion. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not think that if the prose was shorter that I would spend more or less time in the scene... While reading this, I found that I sink further into a Moorcock chapter than I do any of these (and my problem with moorcock is that he does not describe enough!) Zippiness and brevity is not what I am looking for but rather an economics of conveyence. </p><p></p><p>Another factor may be that I am really impatient. There are a lot of books on "the list" and if somthing does not grab me right away, then I am prone to drop it. </p><p></p><p>But I really need to make it clear that it is not the story or the characters that are driving me away. Its the pacing and the arrangement more than anything else. I like the undead demons he created, I really like how magic works in his world, I really like the descriptions he gave of the city run by thieves (the concept of what happens to caravans that get stuck...). Its just that the presentation is driving me bonzo. Perhaps the fact that I feel talked down to in the way he describes or arranges the words. Perhaps I should read <u>Gardens of the Moon</u>.</p><p></p><p>I think I should also make things clear that this is a rough draft of the review. The input you guys are giving me is invaluable and already has made for a better review. Once I get what I say here into it I think it will get closer to fair. In fact I think this might be my method of review writing from here on out. Post a visceral initial thought review and slowly revise it to fit what I really think based on my explanations of what I said.</p><p></p><p>As for the term "Tome Tosser," I concieved the phrase more as a quick way to describe a way of writing. Martin, in my opinion is almost in a grey area. But it is really not meant as a derogatory statement, just a descriptive one. </p><p></p><p>Thanks! </p><p></p><p>Aaron.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jester47, post: 1388980, member: 2238"] Thanks for the thoughts BC... I like the 200,000 year old characters, the uber-characters, and the variety that he offers. But I find that even minor characters are getting major character treatment. Granted maybe he has tons of major characters. I am still trying to decide if I like that or not. I tend to pay more attention to characters when what is written about them is proportional to the story. Granted, I have never tried reading a story so long as these. So it could just be what I am used to shining through in my opinion. I do not think that if the prose was shorter that I would spend more or less time in the scene... While reading this, I found that I sink further into a Moorcock chapter than I do any of these (and my problem with moorcock is that he does not describe enough!) Zippiness and brevity is not what I am looking for but rather an economics of conveyence. Another factor may be that I am really impatient. There are a lot of books on "the list" and if somthing does not grab me right away, then I am prone to drop it. But I really need to make it clear that it is not the story or the characters that are driving me away. Its the pacing and the arrangement more than anything else. I like the undead demons he created, I really like how magic works in his world, I really like the descriptions he gave of the city run by thieves (the concept of what happens to caravans that get stuck...). Its just that the presentation is driving me bonzo. Perhaps the fact that I feel talked down to in the way he describes or arranges the words. Perhaps I should read [U]Gardens of the Moon[/U]. I think I should also make things clear that this is a rough draft of the review. The input you guys are giving me is invaluable and already has made for a better review. Once I get what I say here into it I think it will get closer to fair. In fact I think this might be my method of review writing from here on out. Post a visceral initial thought review and slowly revise it to fit what I really think based on my explanations of what I said. As for the term "Tome Tosser," I concieved the phrase more as a quick way to describe a way of writing. Martin, in my opinion is almost in a grey area. But it is really not meant as a derogatory statement, just a descriptive one. Thanks! Aaron. [/QUOTE]
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